The Future Of Tulpae?

[Voltroll]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528725.900-robot-avatar-body-controlled-by-thought-alone.html

 

And this is how a tulpa will interact with the world. The end.

[NesterBones]

 

/x/ damages every concept in general, that could need some real research. Even in our case are metaphysics and creepypastas like acid. Not that I didn't already see people on /mlp/ whining about their tulpa raping them...

 

i think 4chan itself damages every concept that goes through it.

 

people these days just don't care about stuff like this. it's too small and questionable for most to care about let alone believe. some of my family members think of it as just experimenting with the psyche while others think i'm just nuts and/or smoking the good shit.

 

i think for tulpae to become a major and accepted thing in these dark days, someone needs to come along who's important enough for everyone to overlook any possible religious, supernatural, or metaphysical aspects and see it for what it is on the most basic level. creating sentient life imposed in one's reality through mental training and self-induced sensory reprogramming.

 

that will be never, unfortunately. nobody like that exists and with churches alone coming up with religious excuses for everything, nobody like that ever will. even if someone were to come up with hard evidence of their tulpa, nobody would care enough to do anything about it on a large enough scale.

[Captain Nemo]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528725.900-robot-avatar-body-controlled-by-thought-alone.html

 

And this is how a tulpa will interact with the world. The end.

 

"You need to log in to read this article"

 

Not even interested.

[Voltroll]

 

"You need to log in to read this article"

 

Not even interested.

 

Sorry, I should have known I needed to put a giant dick there to entice you, faggot.

[Captain Nemo]

I'm not making an account on a site to only read a single article. That's just stupid. ಠ_ಠ

[JD1215]

I'm not making an account on a site to only read a single article. That's just stupid. ಠ_ಠ

 

BugMeNot.com serves as a valuable resource for times like these. Anyways, pastebinned the article for whoever: http://pastebin.com/p2mxnLAJ

[Guest]

This is sort of how I see the possible future of tulpae as it becomes more widely known.

 

If people don't accept it as a phenemenon and instead think of it as a disease, doctors, psychiatrists and the like will likely dub it schizophrenia, give therapy to take care of these "illusions" and leave the research at that. I'm unsure of how the medical world would treat tulpaforcers though. I don't know if they would see it deserving of a stay at the psychiatric ward or not. Family members and friends might think the forcer is mentally ill, and treat them as such.

 

If people see it as a phenemenon and not a disease, then people might be a bit more open about coming forth with their tulpae, if they've been hiding it from their families and friends. Even so, there would still likely be some segregation towards those who have/had tulpae from peers and others, and they'd become, for the time being, at least, minority. There'd be skeptics attempting to disprove the phenemenon as well, of course, and though the topic of tulpae will be a bit more open than before, it'd still probably be taboo to talk about. And it would remain such until people overcome their doubts about tulpae and acknowledge tulpaforcers as, well, normal people. Who knows? In time, it may become much like lucid dreaming which, while an odd topic, can often be talked about with friends and family comfortably and with fascination, rather than disbelief.

 

Then, if tulpae aren't recognized, we are where we are right now.

 

Of course, none of these scenarios will actually occur, and it's just my opinion.

[ThatOneGuy]

The most attention we have right now are a few psych majors following us on twitter, so apparently the concept is a bit interesting to some people.

[Asgardian]

 

i think 4chan itself damages every concept that goes through it.

 

people these days just don't care about stuff like this. it's too small and questionable for most to care about let alone believe. some of my family members think of it as just experimenting with the psyche while others think i'm just nuts and/or smoking the good shit.

 

i think for tulpae to become a major and accepted thing in these dark days, someone needs to come along who's important enough for everyone to overlook any possible religious, supernatural, or metaphysical aspects and see it for what it is on the most basic level. creating sentient life imposed in one's reality through mental training and self-induced sensory reprogramming.

 

that will be never, unfortunately. nobody like that exists and with churches alone coming up with religious excuses for everything, nobody like that ever will. even if someone were to come up with hard evidence of their tulpa, nobody would care enough to do anything about it on a large enough scale.

Well, most humans are, as far as I am concerned, too superstitious or outright too materialistic to care about things like lucid dreaming or tulpae if not some kind of big fad. I mean, there has to be a reason, why complicated plans of virtual reality through nanites stimulating neurons exist for the future (an idea I'm not necessarily opposing). It is always the desire to get everything with a bit money and no work at all.

 

The hope I have is, that science goes further on the topic of tulpae, like they managed to deal with lucid dreaming. Both concepts make darn amounts of sense when looking at neurologic and psychologic facts, and tulpae are in my eyes a very good field to research the human personality and what makes it up neurologically.

 

 

This is sort of how I see the possible future of tulpae as it becomes more widely known.

 

If people don't accept it as a phenemenon and instead think of it as a disease, doctors, psychiatrists and the like will likely dub it schizophrenia, give therapy to take care of these "illusions" and leave the research at that. I'm unsure of how the medical world would treat tulpaforcers though. I don't know if they would see it deserving of a stay at the psychiatric ward or not. Family members and friends might think the forcer is mentally ill, and treat them as such.

 

If people see it as a phenemenon and not a disease, then people might be a bit more open about coming forth with their tulpae, if they've been hiding it from their families and friends. Even so, there would still likely be some segregation towards those who have/had tulpae from peers and others, and they'd become, for the time being, at least, minority. There'd be skeptics attempting to disprove the phenemenon as well, of course, and though the topic of tulpae will be a bit more open than before, it'd still probably be taboo to talk about. And it would remain such until people overcome their doubts about tulpae and acknowledge tulpaforcers as, well, normal people. Who knows? In time, it may become much like lucid dreaming which, while an odd topic, can often be talked about with friends and family comfortably and with fascination, rather than disbelief.

 

Then, if tulpae aren't recognized, we are where we are right now.

 

Of course, none of these scenarios will actually occur, and it's just my opinion.

 

People not knowing about it will dub it schizophenia, or a kind of imaginary friend, which propably would imply neckbearded manchildren again for some, would be nothing new.

 

The real advantage of it becoming more known would be, that, as you mentioned, a minority would form. You would be able to talk free in public, when people atleast heard it in the news. Objective information gives you much more leverage, being seemingly not only the weird imagination of a single person anymore.

 

I for example have a hard time explaining such things to my parents, they are always worried, when I "fuck with my mind". If lucid dreams would have ever showed up in tv, they would be more accepting for sure.

Cause of their attitude, I didn't even bother telling them about tulpae, school will be even worse regarding that.

 

tl;dr The topic needs attention badly.

[Guest Anonymous]

disease, doctors, psychiatrists and the like will likely dub it schizophrenia, give therapy to take care of these "illusions" and leave the research at that.

 

http://www.treatmentcenters.net/psychiatry-mental-health/blood-flow-examined-through-mri-proves-valuable-test-for-schizophrenia/

 

Psychiatrists can quickly determine if this is an illness and if it is a form of schizophrenia.

 

If the creation of tulpas change anything in the brain chemically it can be dubbed an illness, however unlikely it is.

 

Other theorized changes:

-Increased brain usage has no real negative effect outside of perhaps, increased calorie intake.

-Brain electrical output can have negative effects if the charge is drastically increased or randomly output, and that can be ruled out.

-Tulpa possession in the eyes of a doctor would simply appear to be the human causing the movement and the human being fraudulent.

Unless tulpas physically change the chemicals of the brain, there is very little if not no chance of this being dubbed as an illness.

 

If it does change brain chemicals in a way it really couldn't be diagnosed as an illness (to the best of my knowledge) as the hallucination part is simply one of several symptoms required for say, schizophrenia. Maybe atypical schizophrenia? Maybe psychosis? However, I must stress that the current form of testing for chemical imbalances is usually done by a psychiatrist evaluating changes in behavior, thus, people can be misdiagnosed. PET scans are available, however, they cost a couple grand.

 

http://www.psych.theclinics.com/article/S0193-953X%2805%2970047-2/abstract

 

If someone with a tulpa were to go to a psychiatrist and say something like "I'm hearing voices in my head" then some sort of treatment would follow, likely therapy. Pills, to my knowledge, are much harder to get. You'd likely have to be showing several symptoms other than hallucinations to get them.

 

If tulpa were to somehow become a well known subject, the average Joe would deem it insanity or schizophrenia. However, the only similarity they really have is the hallucination part, and even then, they're different.

 

[video=youtube]

 

My best guess for the research part is if you were to describe the process of creating one in depth, be able to disprove that this is an illness (with evidence), and have it become somewhat mainstream, in-depth research could follow. Sadly, only one of those have been achieved.

 

TL;DR Average Joe will call it schizophenia, doctors probably won't.