Visiting other peoples wonderlands

[alexmmorrow]

Hello, I'm sensing people don't understand one of my threads about my evil wonderland creatures. I was just asking, "does anybody else know how to go into somebody else's wonderland"? I thought everybody knew they could do that, somebody asked me "how does that work?" well honestly I don't know, I don't want to feel like I'm the only one here that can do that, so I suggest you try it yourself, and

maybe look it up on the internet. I know about something related called "tandem dreaming" my question is "can anybody else know how go into somebody else's wonderland"? for me it took practice, I don't want people to think I'm crazy.

[Luminesce]

The thing is, we're usually pretty science-minded here, and not understanding something and taking it on faith doesn't really fly. Most likely what you did was convince your brain your friend would come to your wonderland, and then imagined him there. Since you believe he's not under your control and has more power over his imagination than you, your brain let him do things you couldn't yourself, such as banishing manifested intrusive thoughts. Once your tulpa's well-developed, you don't even need to use a friend, my tulpas are actually able to do that type of thing themselves - I believe they have a lot of control over how my mind works, and so they do. They've helped me do a lot of things, really.

 

Of course that's just my science-y belief. You can have whatever beliefs you want to, especially if they work better for you. Just remember most of us try to make logical sense of everything, 'cus it's just easier for us to live that way. (I can't stand not understanding things logically, myself)

 

 

Also, might I suggest you make a progress report? If you ask your questions there you won't have to keep making new threads, and you might even get more specialized answers as people follow your tulpa's development. Progress reports are good places to.. report your progress, and ask any questions you have in the process.

[alexmmorrow]

I would be thinking like you, but I really doubt that I convinced my mind that my friend was there because I'm not a very convincing person and I take everything

seriously. I also have a proof because we were in the same room and he explained everything he saw like a pine forest, river, boat, even my tulpa. The funny thing is

I never even told him about my tulpa or any of that stuff.

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how do i make a progress report

[Luminesce]

Oh, I assumed you did it the old sharing-dreams way where you discuss and then both go home and report back the next day. It's a little different if you're together at the same time, but I won't get into that.

 

And, just create a thread https://community.tulpa.info/forum-progress-report here. Maybe look at a few others' to get an idea of what goes on, but generally it's not a big deal or that hard. You just talk about any progress you make related to tulpamancing, and occasionally ask for advice.

[TulpaFox]

I would be thinking like you, but I really doubt that I convinced my mind that my friend was there because I'm not a very convincing person and I take everything

seriously. I also have a proof because we were in the same room and he explained everything he saw like a pine forest, river, boat, even my tulpa. The funny thing is

I never even told him about my tulpa or any of that stuff.

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how do i make a progress report

 

I see. Well here is the problem with those kind of experiences and the science community. The kind of extensive training mixed with talent it seems to take for people to do things like that, if they indeed can, is astounding and would be a very expensive study that no one would be willing to conduct. If the story you say is true, then he did indeed enter your wonderland; however it should be clear why the community as a whole is not willing to accept this.

 

I am unsure of whether what you are saying is true or not. However to be science minded I need to accept it as a possibility. I would like to ask a few questions to mentally log if that's ok with you. Does your friend naturally experience psychic phenomenon? Does he meditate or engage in any other type of training? If so how long, and how intensely as he been doing so?

[Luminesce]

I am unsure of whether what you are saying is true or not. However to be science minded I need to accept it as a possibility.

 

Thank you! I'm a scientist through and through, all of my beliefs are based in logic, but I still hold the possibility of many supernatural and metaphysical things in my mind. No proof God does or doesn't exist, no proof we don't have a soul or reincarnate or have spirit guides. Not likely, but not proven false, so I act accordingly. Maybe I'm telling my guides what direction I'd like my life to go in, or maybe I'm just training my subconscious to make decisions to lead me there. As long as your possible-beliefs line up with others' and your own good, there's no need for conflict. That's why I like new age spirituality (as long as it's in moderation) - even if it turns out to all be complete bull, your life was still improved by it, you still became a better person. And if when you die it turns out to be legit, well, that's cool too.

 

Sorry that was off topic, but I'm just glad someone's finally got the right mindset here. Healthy skepticism is extremely important in science, and the ability to hold multiple conflicting could-be beliefs is just as much so.

 

Alright, continue.

[Aiko_M]

I normally would say no, but... I know it is possible because a friend visited mine while she was asleep.

 

A friend of mine and I were talking about a dream she had, I started to recognise the scenery as she described it. I asked her a few questions, she confirmed, then I asked if she had seen another person in there. She said yes.

My tulpa's physical form is modeled on a certain game character. I did not know she had played it as the game is not in English, I never asked.

 

I asked her who the person looked like, she told me exactly who the character is. Not only did she get into my wonderland, but she saw my tulpa.

[TheCrawlingCreepypasta]

I would be thinking like you, but I really doubt that I convinced my mind that my friend was there because I'm not a very convincing person and I take everything

seriously. I also have a proof because we were in the same room and he explained everything he saw like a pine forest, river, boat, even my tulpa. The funny thing is

I never even told him about my tulpa or any of that stuff.

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Hmm, interesting. May I ask for more information? I've looked on the net, and found out some interesting stuff. For one thing, it seems that "independent" Tulpas can dream separately from their host. I wonder if the event you experienced is similar.

Has this happened multiple times?

(Also your name keeps giving me flashbacks to The Elder Scrolls Morrowind)

[Bambi]

Is this an interesting concept? Yes. And I kind of hope it's true and would be willing to try this out one day with someone if they were as well--possibly.

 

However, just something to note: Just because you may have experienced this first-hand doesn't mean that you have proof. Maybe I just took a huge rainbow-colored shit, but me saying that doesn't make it proof, it means that I said that. So, no, you have no proof, only your word for it.

 

You might be asking why it's important to keep that in mind . . . well, the answer is that this community is dedicated to science, first and foremost. I would never consider myself to be a scientist, nor would I say that I find science in general interesting--though it can be . . . but always keep this kind of stuff in mind, so that if you actually want to work to prove it you can actually work to prove it. How that would be done, I'm not sure, but there must be something someday for it.

[Aiko_M]

stuff

 

:D I was wondering if I was going to have to mention that.

 

Yes, I might be lying. I have absolutely no desire, need or pretense to do so. I don't need to prove anything to anyone.

 

It is just my experience. I have theorized long and hard over it.

Off the top of my head, scientifically I can only surmise that the micro tubules or perhaps the dorsolateral-temporal junction achieved a state of entanglement with my friends mind. We don't know a lot about the mind and I keep mine open.

 

I think the hyper skeptics are just ignorant. As I said, we don't know a lot about the mind. Things happen that we cannot explain. Calling an experience into question when you know almost nothing about the mind to begin with is counter productive. It is all part of experimenting.

 

DARPA is working on transmitting images between a control and viewers through the mind and they have been having success.

 

Is it plausible? Well, the governments have sinking a lot of money into such things for a long time and have had results. So, possible. Once again, comparatively we know nothing about the mind. We don't even know how memories are stored, we can only theorize.

 

Just please remember that even though you might be into science (as I am) there will be situations where some people state something and take it on faith, as one might say. Nobody has the right to make demands over it. Take it at face value.

 

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

 

I have EEG results which show me to be in a dreamless, thoughtless state while I actively force. You could say I wasn't in my mind at the time. The hospital thought I was in deep sleep. Take the claim with a grain of salt, it is true. But I certainly won't be handing over EEG's to prove myself to anyone. If you don't believe me, that's perfectly fine with me.

 

You might see the "community" as being dedicated to science.. but if you look at the top of this page, you will see that this is for metaphysics. Perhaps it is important for you to remember that.

 

Anyway, thank you for not being a jerk over it. It's nice to see.