Da fuq just happened

[Slenderpman]

This crazy thing just happened the other day, and I needed to find a place to share it

 

My Tulpa and I the other day were talking about my life problems, when all of a sudden a smile spread across her face. I asked her why, as she is usually pessimistically annoyed with me in a (I hope) sisterly way. She told me to relax and let go of my thoughts, and I did. Then she disappeared, just like that, and next thing you know my body is doing stuff on it's own accord. Quickly I'm able to pull back my body and she said that it was her that was doing this. I looked this up but all accounts point to huge ass practice of 'Possession' for this to happen. This leaves me fearful as to whether I should wipe this slate and start a new tulpa, because I am afraid that she could control me while I sleep, or worse...

[CM]

O.o Well that is freaky. When Desmond came back it felt as he was accidentally possessing my body, since I started twitching all over, but that hasn't happened again and he tells it's difficult for him to possess me without my help because I'm so aware of my movements.

 

Maybe you should talk about that with her, and ask her not to do that again. Especially when you're sleeping. If she agrees then you should be okay (I think), but otherwise I think it's smart to try to limit her access to stuff like that. If that's possible, I don't know. Should be.

[Missy]

Talk to her about it. See what her intentions were.

 

If you're uncomfortable with being possessed without your permission, ask her not to.

 

Being part of someone else's mind generally makes it really easy to see things from their point of view.

 

...All that aside, she can't do anything unless you let her, so start by taking a breath and calming down. It's your mind.

 

-Melody

[cober101]

well just talk to her about it ask why she did it don't kill her and start over unless she's definitely malicious

[Linkzelda]

I asked her why' date=' as she is usually pessimistically annoyed with me in a (I hope) sisterly way.[/quote']

Feels like tsundere

 

I looked this up but all accounts point to huge ass practice of 'Possession' for this to happen.

 

Those accounts of “huge ass practice” are merely anecdotes, and don’t really have anything of empirical underpinnings that have a sound framework of being an end-all be-all justification of who is possessing the body. Those presumptions are mixed with various opinions, e.g., elitists who want to feel like special snowflakes, and end up feeling intimidated when others seem to experience something faster that they “presumably” had to work hard on.

 

So maybe the only truth you can come to terms with on things like possession, and even switching, is just making your own paradigm of your capability, and your tulpa, of doing it within your private sphere of subjective experience; other people’s inference/assumptions shouldn’t force you to create a conceptual limit of what you can, or cannot do. That's like a person saying:

 

"I'm going to go inside your subjective and private experience, create conceptual limitations of what you can and cannot do so that it matches mine so I don't feel inferior because I'm applying good faith that you can pick up on things faster than me. It's either going to match my paradigm, or you can go to hell."

 

And because there’s probably going to be perpetual debates over hard work vs. things that come by naturally based on circumstances (e.g. walk-ins, insta-tulpas, etc.), if you get caught into what’s right and wrong, you may end up at an impasse with that.

 

So just relax and let go of your thoughts every now and then.

 

Then she disappeared, just like that, and next thing you know my body is doing stuff on it's own accord. Quickly I'm able to pull back my body and she said that it was her that was doing this

 

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This leaves me fearful as to whether I should wipe this slate and start a new tulpa, because I am afraid that she could control me while I sleep, or worse...

 

Well, you’re implying that your body itself has a sense of self that’s completely separate from your own. And just throwing out theories and ad hoc claims on mind, consciousness, etc., especially with tulpas, is already a challenge by itself, but if she’s professing that she’s doing it, but you’re still conflicted on your body doing things on its own accord, maybe just ask her if she can re-create reigning in most of your body.

 

And honestly, just by that experience alone, it’s understandable for you to be fearful of what she can do, but IMO, it’s just a matter of reflecting the practicality of those worst case scenarios.

 

• Even if she were to possess most of your body, or even switch for that matter, and did something painful, unless she has some huge masochist fetish or something, I don’t think you and her would like feeling pain (e.g. suicide, slitting the wrist, and other horrid stuff people can come with)

 

• She wanted you to relax and let go of your thoughts in the first place despite of her seemingly tsundere, or morbid disposition that may be done in jest. Even though it’s understandable for you to be fearful if that morbid disposition were to go downhill, I’m sure if you’re sustaining some propensity of treating them as sentient, and them wanting to do the same, it’s just a matter of acknowledging that she would be competent to know the ramifications involved if she were to, e.g., self-actualize in a negative manner

 

• Sometimes when people fear these worst case scenarios, they tend to undermine their capability to reign in their own existence instead of maybe using that fear as a learning curve on how they should assess themselves with their tulpas (e.g. maybe having some kind of philosophical discourse)

 

Just remember, our opinions are always dripping with contingency. If you can acknowledge your ability to reflect on what happened, question why, and find a way to come to terms with things like that with your tulpa, I’m sure that someone like her would like someone like you going through that with them; someone that acknowledges their existence to where they have someone (you) to refer to as well. If she were to do something crazy like, I don’t know, egocide (or whatever people use), then who is she going to share a private and subjective experience with?

 

But again, it’s circumstantial, and if you have that assurance in the back of your mind, you can map out your own way of dealing with these things, and maybe reach a positive outcome despite the seemingly fearful experiences.

[Yakumo]

It's a bit hard to give advice without insight into your relationship with your tulpa and her backstory but I find it a bit sad that people trust their tulpas so little. After all they are, or at least should be an integral part of your self. If you don't trust yourself, then whom at all?

Also it seems you haven't really talked this over with her. In my opinion most problems arise because people fail to communicate with each other in a decent way. I know it's easier said than done but you can always try.

 

Tulpa says:

We just can't win. People always doubt we exist and if we try to prove our independence it' s like 'OMG, kill it with fire!'

 

Personally, if something like that happened to me I guess it would be a 'Da fuq' moment as well, but more in the sense of 'That's just awesome!'

I fully trust my tulpa and would be more than happy if she was able to pull something like that off. I know she won't kill me in my sleep, and even if, I'm confident it would be in such a spectacular way that it would be totally worth it.

 

But jokes aside, something remotely similar happened to me while on holiday some weeks ago. I was walking back to the hotel while conversing with my tulpa in mindvoice, teasing her that she wasn't able to do anything useful during our possession attempts. At some point I got a 'Oh yeah? Well watch this!'

At first nothing happened, but after a while I noticed that I was subtly increasing my walking speed. Giving that I, and I guess most of us, don't consciously walk but merely give the subconsciousness basic directions to do so, it was like a tulpa-in-the-middle attack on the connection between my consciousness and the subconsciousness. At least that's the best way that I can describe it. Nothing that couldn't be stopped, but why would I want to do this? Let's just see what happens...

On the contrary, I constantly encouraged her to keep on and see what she could achieve.

Thankfully it was already dark and no people around, I ended up stumbling around in a zombie-like way, not exactly running like the ones in 28 days later but not far from this. Unlocking a door on the way proved a bit of a challenge, poking the key aimlessly in the rough direction of the keyhole and dropping them several times which made me laugh, provoking a 'Let's see how you friends react to having dinner with a zombie!' They were already waiting for me in a restaurant, and I was walking towards them unnaturally fast. But I was late so that was a good excuse.

I fell in a chair and sat there in silence for a while, realizing that everything was back to normal. Still it was awesome, but we haven't been able to do it again. It was definitely different from active possession attempts where she can move my arms a bit but not legs, let alone do complex movement patterns like walking. We've been practicing that for a while now but progress is slow whereas the incident above literally came out of nowhere.

 

She said influencing a running subconscious process is totally different from and far easier than making active movements, but she doesn't really know how she managed to do it, it just 'happened'.

[Slenderpman]

Sorry for a late reply. I have spent all my free time forcing a new tulpa, and though it isn't yet sentinel enough for it to carry on it's own conversation, I trust it to watch my other tulpa (Who is known as Helix, Alyss, and Maryrose depending on her mood, please don't ask why, I couldn't answer). To reply to probably the biggest issue, I don't trust her due to her causing harm, no matter how small, to me in the past (Failed Tests, Ruined RelationShips and simple unpleasantness are direct and indirect consequences of this) However much we may be good friends, and however much I am her only friend, I don't feel secure knowing that if I let go off my conscious thought for only a moment, I might find myself no longer behind wheel with my only body. I am hoping that this new strategy will work, as I also have been wanting to make another for a while.

[Kaga and Company]

I don't think that you can really be possessed against your own will. Like you said, it only happened because she convinced you to "let go", and then, you were able to reclaim control almost instantaneously.

 

I've also never heard of anyone's tulpas being able to possess them in their sleep, so, I think you'll be fine on that front.

[Charlotte Groves]

That's scary, what if your tulpa tried to murder your family with your own body?! :'( Sorry to scare you, but be careful.

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Maybe I shouldn't make a tulpa after all. *shivers*

[Kaga and Company]

That's scary, what if your tulpa tried to murder your family with your own body?! :'( Sorry to scare you, but be careful.

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Maybe I shouldn't make a tulpa after all. *shivers*

 

That is not a thing that happens.

 

Tulpas simply don't have that level of control. The worst that could happen would be a tulpa doing some very small thing while your attention is elsewhere, but, in general, unless you give them control, they can't just take over like that. Also, I'm pretty sure that, if you do allow them to possess you, you can take back control at any time. That's what my experience has taught me, anyway.

 

I can assure you, not only do tulpas not have this capability, but they would also have no reason to. I've never seen any example of a tulpa who would want to do such things to their host.

 

Despite what some creepypastas may have taught you, tulpas do not "turn evil" and do horrible things like that. It simply isn't true.