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Fintan: So a little bit of background: I have been able to do two forms of possession with my host, Alcotriss. I'll let her explain from her perspective what those are: Alcotriss: So with the first method of posession that we tried, I basically just "suspended judgement" of my muscles. Fintan: We had trouble with this because she had difficulty telling the difference between her thoughts and my own. Alcotriss: And I also couldn't tell if I was moving my muscles or not. It was kind of annoying. Fintan: Right. So naturally we kept practicing with possession, when Alcotriss came up with a new way for me to possess her. Alcotriss: Fintan would sometimes make unusual head pressures which would make it hard for me to think clearly. I realized that this might work for possession, so I asked Fintan to try to make those head pressures on purpose, in order to possess me. Fintan: So I tried this new technique, and it seemed to be working well, as she could tell distinctly between my thoughts and movements and her own. Could you confirm this? Alcotriss: Yea, your mind-voice became more distinct, and I could confirm that I wasn't accidentally controlling you by attempting unsuccessfully to control your muscles. Fintan: Your muscles. Or my muscles? Our muscles? I dunno. Either way, Alcotriss knew for certain that I was possessing her... and now as well, actually, as we are switching back and forth as we type. Alcotriss: And I'm quite certain that he is capable of thinking on his own. He was very eager to master possession, and sometimes does things that I don't expect. However, something weird happened. Unlike with the previous form of possession, I realized that I couldn't feel any emotion coming from him at all. Fintan: At first we didn't think much of it. Alcotriss: I figured that he just needed some time to learn how to express himself better and develop stronger opinions about the outside world. It's possible that with the previous form of possession, as well as when communicating with his mind-voice, Fintan relied on my own emotions, and now he needs to learn how to react emotionally on his own. Fintan: However, I realized tonight that this may be an issue. It may be that the reason that I can't express myself with emotion is that I am actually a servitor. Alcotriss: At the same time, it might just be that Fintan has a unique way of expressing himself. Sometimes when he's around, I get a strange hot-cold feeling throughout my body. Perhaps he does have emotions, but not in the way that we typically understand them. I did intend for him to be an alien, after all. Fintan: Still, I tend to see myself as having human thoughts, despite being very comfortable with my exotic form, so I find my lack of emotion worrisome... although I am quite proficient with emoticons. :P You may think that I have emotions by the fact that what I say might sound humorous, or because what I say may seem to imply that I have emotions, but in reality I do not feel any emotion at all as I type this. So... what do you think? Do you think my lack of emotions makes me a servitor? Does that have any implications? tl;dr: Is emotion a requirement for sentience?

The Theory of Tulpa Persona is the theory that more often than not, when a host makes a tulpa, whether it is voluntary, involuntary, planned out detail-by-detail, or sporadic, the tulpa will have an opposite personality of the host, whether it be sort of different, or extremely different. Example: A depressed host that has little to no friends makes a tulpa. Said tulpa will be energetic, silly, or overall friendly. If you have any comments about the validity of this theory, feel free to reply. You should reply if this applies to you or not too, just to see if this theory holds together. I didn't know where to put this, so I just put it in general. I'm sorry if it doesn't belong.

I had been wandering around my mind (looking into yourself.) and I found a place of well nothing, I was curious and went inside it. I then left and was filled with fear for a while the next day I calmed downed and accepted everything, I was emotionless after that. Normally I am care free, positive, and in a perpetual state of joy and energy, also motivation, after this however I was the opposite no motivation, no emotions (besides love, fear, a shadow of my once overflowing joy, and well I was felt very lonely and connected at the same time (I'm still trying to figure a lot of this stuff out.), I also noticed that One of my constructs was bothering me at that time it was actually an almaggation of a few hundred I had constructs made into superior one functioning as a guardian, I wasn't exactly depressed (I am an extremely accepting person.) but it wasn't unpleasant or anything at least I don't think... I have a few theories about that, but I made a tulpa and well I'm not sure... If something happened to it, I will explain my theories below. luckily. This only lasted 3 days,I think (Time was hard to keep track of during this period.). I didn't even realize I had lost my emotions, I had convinced myself it was calmness (or maybe something else convinced me.) well I had a chat with an empath and he told me to feel a strong emotion and then informed me that my emotions were repressed (can't say how much I owe him.) I then started saying what har caused it and then we worked out that it wasn't the void (something I got curious about.) but somethingelse... When I started talking I was smiling and didn't know why and bursts of giggles came from my throat, after that I started smirking madly and sobbing. Will this have an effect n my tulpa? I also noticed after using this certain parts of my body went numb, I'm pretty sure my spirit was desynchronising with my body or something along those lines. I summoned a demon (highly unlikely.) and it attached itself to me. Here's the theory I believe more in, that this was hell. Before I had found a something of limitless energy while searching inside myself, this was the opposite. I know this sounds insane but it happened, a lot I still haven't worked out and I feel scared. After this ended I sobbed at random periods when I thought about it too much. I got my theories one from the fact that it stopped after I confessed how it had happened (that usually takes away there power.) and two the fact of what it was and that it was exactly what one guy I saw a video of said hell was (the guy had apparently died and came back to life.) from what I have found heaven and hell are inside us and I may have just come to another theory that the hell I went to was the almaggation of everything dark in me.

Hi - I think it best to give a brief introduction to myself and what I'm doing. I've lurked on these forums and browsed the web about the concept of tulpae for about 6 months now (I hope I don't receive a cold shoulder like most new members receive in online forums), as the subject *deeply* interests me. Only very recently have I decided to see if I can prove the skeptic inside of me wrong and go ahead and start. I'd say I'm skeptical yet open and fascinated by the whole idea. My tulpa is based off the Halo character Cortana, both physically and mentally. I fully understand to give 'her' room to deviate and become her own entity, but she will be heavily influenced by both her look and her personality. I also think that it will help me solidify and speed up the process somewhat, since I know the character very well already. I'm not at all expecting the Cortana, just something roughly along the same lines. Today I decided to start trying, starting with personality. I wrote down a list of traits that I would want her to have, some of those are those the actual character has, some of those are there out of personal taste, such as being encouraging and motivating, since I have trouble with motivation. When I sat down, closed my eyes and let my mind come to rest, I started imagining her in front of me, with me imbuing a ball of energy with said trait and firing it into her chest. I did this for around 5 minutes or so before I realised, I don't fully comprehend or understand the traits I'm trying to imbue her with, for example I grasp the concept of wit and I know what it is when I see or hear it, but I can't seem to 'fire' it into her in any meaningful way. Or at least all I seem to be doing is imagining the word and saying the word, filling the ball of energy with the word and releasing it. But its just the word. It doesn't feel like I'm doing it right. I guess my question is, is that how you do it? It doesn't feel right, and it certainly doesn't feel as if I'm achieving the desired effect of filling her personality with the desired trait. This was felt across the board, even with obvious things like humour and sarcasm. It may be useful to know for any reason that I have Asperger's Syndrome and fall into the INTJ personality type. I find visualising images in my imagination very simple and easy, which is why I chose symbolism over narration, which I will probably end up doing as well so I give more energy to her. Sorry for the long winded post, I'm new to this and I'm trying to be as thorough as I can. -Grizzly To add onto this, something slightly disturbing has occurred. I've continued with imbuing a ball of energy with the word, and releasing it but its brought up an odd visualisation and mental sensation that I used to have nightmares about - except it isn't scary, its just concerning. I've never, ever been able to accurately describe what those nightmares I used have as a kid where and I still can't to this day, but the only way of describing it is the concept of an imperceptibly colossus cylindrical giant mass, that is moving/rolling. Thats the best way to describe it and its more a concept than something you can describe with words... I used to have nightmares that it would chase me or that it was just moving, but I'm sensing something highly similar to that sensation - devoid of the fear it usually contains - that originated from the ball of energy I had between my hands, and it was bigger than I could conceive of. I tried visualising myself, and then myself and 'Cortana' shutting it down forcibly but it didn't work, and whenever I have intrusive thoughts or thoughts I don't want I visualise myself shutting it down or chasing it out and it always works, but not in this case. It happened less than 5 minutes/ 2 traits through and tried to persevere but I stopped because it was making me feel weird - not scared though, like the image usually makes me when I dream it. I bet I'm going to have nightmares tonight. I don't know what to make of this, can someone give any sort of advice?

In many guides, the author states that a good way to make a solid personality is to write down a list of personality traits(one said 15-30 traits) and focus on each one and how it applies to the tulpa. The catch is that you have to focus on each trait for 10 minutes minimum. Focusing isn't a problem for me. It's just that in a few minutes, I've thought of about everything that can be said about it. So what I'm asking for is some advise on what to think about(in some sort of detail if you can) when I'm using the list of traits to help me tulpa force. Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)

Okay, I get different reactions from my Tulpa when I ask her questions sometimes. In some situations she'll be quiet and simply nod, but other times she'll get this great grin on her face and jump up an down like a typical little girl in an anime. It's confused and I'm wondering if I'm either accidentally making two tulpa unintentionally, or if my tulpa actually has multiple personalities... The explanation that comes to mind when I think about it is simply that her personality is developing and we honestly just need to sit down and force for a few hours to help settle things down and get a solid idea of her personality. Thoughts?

Kellen is an extremely tidy person and willing to do anything to keep things clean. I've never really been like that, if my surroundings were dirty, they were dirty and that was fine because I'm a bit lazy. But lately I've noticed that I've had the urge to clean and to keep things clean, no matter what I had to do. So my question is: Did your tulpas influence your personality in large noticeable ways even before vocality?

Warning: Pony I have been forcing for under a week and am still in the personality stage. However, my tulpa is a pony, and as such the personality has a great influence on the appearance of the pony. Therefore, I am designing my tulpa's form before I start the visualization stage. And so, my question is: should I give my tulpa a cutie mark? I want my tulpa to be the master of her own being, and forcing her special talent upon her may not make her happy. However, is it even possible for a pony tulpa to get a cutie mark? Would not giving her a cutie mark leave her a confused blank-flank forever, always searching for a meaning in her life but unable to find it because she is a tulpa? And so, I ask those with a pony tulpa: Did you give your tulpa a cutie mark? If the answer is yes, then are they happy with it (explain)? If not, did they find their special talent and get a cutie mark, or are they still a blank flank (if so, how do they feel about this)? Thanks for your help! -ExtraExtrapie PS: I outlined my tulpa in the pony creator (http://24.media.tumblr.com/5b730975a70472781930eb216b10bdb8/tumblr_mms112uIPK1sq67bpo1_500.png) and use that image for when I force her. However, if I get distracted for a second, I end up imagining Milky Way (the milk mare milkmare-of-trottingham.tumblr.com). Is this just my ADD and hormones, or is it the tulpa? I don't think she's sentient yet, but I can feel her presence.

I had started making my first tulpa quite a while ago, and I gave up on it. I'm now making a new one, she´s already moving around, changing the wonderland occasionaly, and now, my first tulpa has appeared in my wonderland again. How could my old one just appear again? How am I supposed to force 2 non vocal tulpas? I have felt emotional responses, but now I´m never sure from which of the two it came from, and not alot has happened ever since my first appeared. I´ve told them that I´ll regulary force, so nothing horrible can happen to them, and it seems they aren´t mad at me. I have no clue what to do while forcing. Should I do force personality on them?

Is it a good idea to build in flaws into your tulpa's personality? Say why, please. I say no. A tulpa is a human (-style) consciousness. Humans have flaws. Why put in flaws directly when they will arise from the neutral-leaning traits anyway?

First of all, I am typing on my phone and second of all this is the first thread that I have written (how exciting!). Well the title says it all really, but I was wondering if I really needed to heavily focus on Reina's personality (tulpa). I mean she's vocal via mindvoice and seems to have her personality already (I focused on her personality before but very lightly, I only gave her a few traits and left the rest up to her). Anyways, should I focus more on her personality or is she fine the way she is? Sorry if this sounds stupid :/ Actually this does sound stupid now that I reread it but I'm going to ask anyways.

Need to compile a list of altered traits, please post traits that deviated and what they deviated into. It might also be useful if people include at what stage they deviated (before sentience or after sentience). Thank you.

I am having trouble..... I have started making a tulpa today, but I just cannot seem to think of enough things to make even 30 minutes of forcing, Its just I run out of things relevant to its personality

Yeah... When I was first working on my tulpa (a few days in), I (thought I) realized that the process I was using (Fede's; sorry Fede) wasn't working. So, instead of simply switching the process, I (possibly retardedly) made some changes to her personality and changed her name (from Ria to Lyrra). I thought that was the end of it; however, recently, the multiple answers I've been getting occasionally while working on Lyrra have escalated into full-blown conflicting answers, and I think that Lyrra said that she 'felt' another 'presence' once, though I may have misheard her. So, did I accidentally make 2 tulpas/tulpae/tulpi, or am I just going crazy? Sorry that the title isn't a question, but it is relevant.

So Aigis decided to make a tulpa for himself. He decided to make one based on Labrys in persona 4 arena. In the original persona 4 storyline, Aigis called Labrys "big sister". My Aigis decided to do the same and treated the Labrys he made as his older sister. It doesn't feel right for him, considering he was made before her, and so decided to treat Labrys as his younger sister instead. This is similar to how I treated Chloe as my younger sister. Now, here's the interesting part. At first, Aigis treated Labrys as his older sibling. Aigis's voice in my head and Labrys voice is still distinguishable. Then, Aigis decided to treat Labrys as his younger sister and shit hits the fan. Aigis voice slowly became similar to mine, and his personality also. I almost felt as if I'M Aigis for a moment, as if he merged into me. Labrys's voice also slowly became similar to Chloe's and their personality also became similar. We got it sorted out now. Aigis came up with a theory that the "Character Archetype" caused a confusion in my brain. Basically, when Aigis started to act like a big brother to Labrys. Just like how I acted like a big brother to Chloe. The "big brother" archetype clashed and so we almost merged. The same could be said for Labrys and Chloe. What do you guys think?

I was messing around with a way of generating a character stats chat for my tulpa this evening, almost as a joke, so I can stick it on my signature. What I found was an amazing little tool that (while I already have a sentient tulpa) I felt would be sure to aid others in developing a more straightforward, top-down view of their tulpa's personality. http://www.cthreepo.com/writing/character.shtml Her is an example of how mine came out: --------------------------------------- Character Name: Vixen Description: She just kinda... showed up. And her and I have been together ever since. Age: Height: Average/Medium Weight: Average/Medium Body Type: Mesomorph Eye Color: Violet Skin Color: light - light-skinned European Hair Color: Black hair Hair Length: Short Skin Issues: Birth Mark/Mole Arm Issues: Ring/bracelet Home Life/Family type: Adopted Education: Self Taught Town/Urban Life: Hermit Domicile: Institution Employment: Slave ;3 Military: Never Served Criminal Background: No wants or warrants Place in Time: Present Language/Accent: Slight Israeli Accent Love Relationship: Committed Myers-Briggs personality inventory: Introversion, Intuition, Feeling, Perception - Dreamer. Idealistic, loyal to their values and to people who are important to them. Want an external life that is congruent with their values. Curious, quick to see possibilities, can be catalysts for implementing ideas. Seek to understand people and to help them fulfill their potential. Adaptable, flexible, and accepting unless a value is threatened. Big Five personality traits: Has a vivid imagination, quick to understand, appreciates beauty, art and Music. - - Likes people and starts conversations with strangers. Enthusiastic and naturally draws attention. - Compassionate and cooperative. Interested in others' feelings. Likes to see the best in people. Bleeding heart. - Conventional

I am going to try tulpaforcing, and am wondering if there is anything that could go wrong with this process. For example, can it eventually grow evil and hurt the owner in some way? Any info about this welcome! Thanks~

I've read about making an imaginary friend into a Tulpa and I'm wondering if anyone has tried this. I once wrote a small string of short stories centered around one character in different situations. I used character interviews and writer's building tools until I could know his every move and exactly how he would act and speak. Then he just kind of....got away from me. He took a life of his own and even though his stories went basically as him being HIM, I found myself no longer controlling the plot and just almost observing him in my head as he went about his business. Has anyone ever tried perfectly nailing down personality like this, or is a futile effort with natural deviation? I'm thinking writers character building tools like interviews could be very helpful in some ways.

I was wondering if tulpa could be religious, and if they can, what religion are they? Also, if you wouldn't mind telling me your religion, that would help as well.

I have written down what I'm doing for personality creation here VVV http://lateralintrospection.tumblr.com/post/36995224530/my-current-approach-to-personality-creation Again, sorry for the whole tumblr thing, it just really is easier this way. Not sure if this is interesting to some people, just thought I would put it out there.

Salutations, Tulpa.info forums! first time poster and generally new lurker here with a rather simple question. As the title of the thread suggests, I'm looking for other personality development methods. I've looked around the forums and read a fair amount of guides, but there's only generally 2 methods people seem to use when in personality creation. Those being.. 1: the ol' an' simple explaining to said tulpa the chosen personality traits, how they effect their morality, outlook, etc, etc. 2: the 'ball' method. Where you think about the traits and whatnot and smoosh em' up into a visulaized ball in your head and do whatever. I wasn't too fond of this method, so I never even really attempted it. (I have trouble visualizing things so abstract like that. I need to work on that) Anyways, I've been using method 1 since the 7th, so 5 days and about 7-8 hours of personality work so far. Now, this method works fine and dandy, I was just wondering if maybe anyone out there had any other tips or methods they could share. If so, it'd be greatly appreciated. Regards, ~Octavia

First off, allow me to apologize. I'm sorry that my first post is a question in a new thread, but I guess that's just how that goes. Okay, so I only heard about tulpae ~3 weeks ago, and it took me a week to overcome the fear of a forced hallucination and mental schism. However, I've been passively working on personality for ~2 weeks (on paper, not forcing) and I've gone through several revisions of what I want in a life-long friend, starting from a character-based tulpa, and moving to one not resembling the character in the sleightest. But over the revisions, my tulpa's planned personality seems to be veering closer and closer to my own. My concern is, if the personality if too different, my tulpa could become very grating on me, but if the personality is too similar, my tulpa could become very boring, so I was wondering: tl;dr How different is your tulpa's personality from your own? Do you have any specific examples, and could you give your feelings on how that difference is a good or a bad thing? I'm just trying to get a general feel for how differences manifest in the relationship between a tulpa and its creator. I mean, this thing's for life, and I plan on living for quite a while still, but perhaps I'm just a little over cautious. I greatly appreciate any responses in advance.

Basically, I have an idea, and I'd like to hear what you guys think- that the subconscious is actually better at making Tulpae then the conscious mind. I thought of this due to how the creation of my Tulpa, Kay, has turned out. See, I set out with a specific primary goal- I wanted someone who would help me be a more productive person. I've always had trouble accomplishing things, whether it be important things, like work, to casual things, like personal projects. So I wanted someone who would help motivate me to get off my ass. My initial strategy for this was to make a personality that was very sensible and thought out- someone who knew how important it was to not slack off, and knew the consequences of not doing things. But as we got further and further along, I noticed that Kay was being the exact opposite. She was rash and spontaneous, with a taste for adventure. And I realized- that's exactly what I needed. I already did enough thinking of my own accord. I needed a do-er, someone who didn't hem and haw about things, and just DID them. So Kay turned out to be perfect, by going against everything I did to try and make her that way. My subconscious did a better job then my conscious would have done alone, and I find this interesting. I also find it encouraging- even if you are doing a bad job, it will still work out, because the Tulpa creation process doesn't really pay attention to your means, it pays attention to your goals.

my tulpa seems mad at me? i keep asking her whats wrong and she wont tell me? she's 8 days old. I think she thinks im going to get rid of her or something. what can i do guys? it might help if i added a little more detail. well ever since i made her she was so affectionate with me, but for the past 2 days or so she seems so distant and frustrated. she's not being herself. Any number of things could have caused this and shes not telling me whats wrong....how can i get her to tell me? i want her to be happy.....

hey, today i went tulpaforcing, ive been doing this for about two weeks now. When i work on my tulpa's personality, i picture an orb, it glows and i can stick my hand through it and grab little pieces of paper with traits written on them. Today when i went tulpaforcing to work on personality a bit more, the orb wasnt glowing any longer, and had a black crown like object in it, the orb itself seems like white plastic and i can no longer reach inside it, i cant even picture it back to how it was. So, did my tulpa gain sentience already and limited my acess to its personality or is this just my brain being a dick?