Reverse parroting/ puppeting theory

[NED]

All the guides say that parroting and puppeting are unhealthy for a Tulpa and are generally bad. Lots of other people agree with this and most people (maybe all of us) have made/ will make our Tulpa with as little parroting as possible.

 

But, I think that maybe if you parroted mostly all the way through the process, then maybe your mind will 'get used to it' and start to make the parroting and puppeting natural- a part of the subconcience; like breathing or blinking, you do those things without even thinking because you have been doing it for so long.

 

Anyone get it?

[glitchthe3rd]

Parroting defeats the purpose of the tulpaforcing process, so you'd end up with a servitor if you did that.

[NED]

are you sure? Like i said. what if you do it so much, it becomes natural? isn't that possible?

 

i want to beleive

[Guest]

NED, I've been nagging everyone on #tulpa and #tulpa.info about this for quite some time now. Allow me to quote some earlier posts I made on the subject:

 

You would do it so frequently [parroting] that you'd be doing it automatically in your daily life - and eventually subconsciously as well - without worrying about what's your conscious doing and subconscious doing' date=' as you're telling yourself from point on that it's all your tulpa. And we all know that subconscious interference = tulpa interfering = sentience. Bam.[/quote']

Our minds set their own rules. Parroting can be beneficial to one while being counter-productive to another. Maybe I'm the only one to ever say this' date=' but it seems that the anti-parroting myth, along with a range of other myths, has been so deeply engraved into the forum (and the threads when they were) that people start to believe that parroting is bad, and once they believe that, it becomes bad when they try to do it, and the myth becomes real! The very definition of sentient is extremely blurry. A subconsciously controlled parrot can appear just as sentient as a tupper that took ages to "LEARN" a word, despite knowing its host's full vocabulary from point on. We're limiting ourselves from efficiency, even if people like TOG just say "do what works best for you", because the myths create a vicious circle(jerk) that affects all the newcomers, too, who take the myths at heart, causing them to question plausible, effective tulpa-creation psychology that they could otherwise be enacting.[/quote']

There's no distinguishing involved. You're doing something that eventually becomes a near-constant habit' date=' which eventually becomes an automated task by the subconscious. When you eventually end up doing it without thinking about it, there should be nothing to worry about, except if you have the anti-parroting syndrome, of course.[/quote']

The way that I see it' date=' creating a voice that you can't control can be done in two ways; either wait for her to accidentally spew out her own words, or parrot her until it becomes a subconscious routine that eventually takes control on its own. For the first method, you'd be talking to her without getting an answer until much later on "accident". For the second method, you'd be talking with her, letting her start most conversations and creating responses on her behalf, until it becomes so common you end up doing it 24/7, which will cause this routine to become a subconscious, automated task, and subconscious interference is exactly what we want.[/quote']

 

You're not the only one to find parroting being a plausible psychological way of creating a mind construct that is capable of doing things on its own. It's fine common sense that something you keep doing over and over again will eventually become so common, you'll fuck it up at one point. It's the same concept with tulpae; they can keep talking over and over and "fuck it up" (be sentient).

 

I'm eager to see what others have to say in this subject. I really feel this anti-parroting myth needs to be broken. So many people have heard things from their tulpae and then just cancelled it out with "parroting". The only thing I have to say to those people is why spend an eternity reaching the same, subconsciously controlled result? There's not much point in having a "genuine" tulpa that you wait forever to say a word by accident over a tulpa established via parroting; in the end, both are outputting things subconsciously.

[Pronas]

OK. GUYS. MAKE A SERVITOR. AND LET IT BECOME TUPPER. THATS IT.

[Avalanche]

Wrong.

 

Because wrong.

 

Because naggers.

[Guest]

See? Everyone fails to disprove my theories. I am always right in the end.

[JD1215]

I'm eager to see what others have to say in this subject.I really feel this anti-parroting myth needs to be broken.

 

I'm JD1215, and I support this message. I believe all of my tulpae were kickstarted by some amount of parroting (and I had no fucking idea what a tulpa was back then). I'd bet money that parroting can be beneficial.

[NED]

 

I'm JD1215, and I support this message. I believe all of my tulpae were kickstarted by some amount of parroting (and I had no fucking idea what a tulpa was back then). I'd bet money that parroting can be beneficial.

 

So are you suggesting people actually should try this? Including me?

[Avalanche]

I bet money that getting the subconscious to take over parroting will result in the effect of a tulpa not being able to speak on it's own, it will just sit and wait for you to speak for it, like it has been all this time.

 

Good luck Fede, I hope you succeed, but I think you won't.