warriortiltheend December 14, 2015 December 14, 2015 Actually did have an issue with a metaphysical tulpa a while back. You can just banish them. Like Aiko said, keep a banishing ritual on hand, it will come in handy. If you're like me, you can emnd the banishment after a certain period of time is set. One of my tulpas is completely psychological - I have never given him energy or an 'astral form'. The other two vary and only occasionally use their astral forms. They prefer to be with me. White text- Ash (the host!) Red text- Quartz! Purple text- Gamzee! Blue text- Obsidian!
Guest Anonymous December 19, 2015 December 19, 2015 I was actually worried about this since I found out about tulpas through the metaphysical community first and then stumbled upon this forum. The problem is solved by building a "Self-destruct" safeguard in the tulpa. Personally, mine has a tattoo of a circle where the energy I put into him can be reabsorbed. However, I do believe that subconscious fears or, slightly less likely, mistreatment is what would cause a tulpa to turn on its host.
Aiko_M December 19, 2015 December 19, 2015 However, I do believe that subconscious fears or, slightly less likely, mistreatment is what would cause a tulpa to turn on its host. I think fear is perfectly healthy in this circumstance as well. The risk is substantial. Recently I read of a tulpa that is very annoyed with their host because they discovered they are the epitome of the hosts' perfect romantic partner. They are questioning the motive for their very creation, they are angry and upset. Conversation between the host and tulpa is strained and painful. The tulpa is pretty much ignoring the host as much as possible. This is what happens when a "tulpamancer" does not clear their mind or attain gnosis before enacting tulpa creation. Things sneak into the mix. It could also be due to the tulpa being insecure, that is something comes from a badly thought out personality. This is going to happen when you have people with emotion and personality disorders, creating an entity that has emotional and personality. I believe this problem can only be circumvented by following strict meditation and gnosis. Riko, my tulpa, is the exact "object of my desire". If I were to create a perfect romantic, sexual and life partner, it would be her. But alas, I maintained gnosis, created her personality and "constructed" her without thought of myself or her appeal to me. I made her secure in her own person. She has no problem that I am attracted to her, the choice for us to be together was one we made together. Don't forget, they can see your motives. They are like a bloodhound, if you have meat in your pocket, they will find it. I took a big risk and used my own energy as her energy source. I can't dispel or remove her without quite an effort. The added benefit of that is she can "retreat" into me, she is safer in me than being linked to some object. I also have a sigil of sorts that I can destroy to aid in removal, but comparatively, it would be somewhat of an emotional and spiritual surgery. Not pleasant. I believe a lot of today's tulpamancers are going to discover in decades to come that their tulpas become a problem. Whether you believe they are spiritual or not, the fact of the matter is poorly created thoughtforms have ALWAYS been a problem for practitioners. Good idea with the tattoo as well, I like that. Delete this account - I will not return.
Guest Anonymous December 19, 2015 December 19, 2015 I thought I was going to get attacked for posting that :) I have never thought about tulpas from a scientific point of view until now and I definitely like that line of thinking. I believe that when you think of tulpas as just a hallucination and not separate from your mind, it automatically creates a safeguard. It makes it so that you are in complete control. I like the point about gnosis before forcing that you make. I have been rather casual in my approach and after stumbling upon this thread, I implemented my safeguard. I honestly find it much harder to force during meditation, so I just talk and narrate while doing everyday things. This has seriously made me reconsider that though. I do have fears and doubts that creep in during narrations, and though they aren't life threatening, I don't want them to be there during creation. So thank you for that heads up :) I didn't even think about what energy source I used. I guess I got excited and jumped in. Hopefully since I'm only four days in I can still make a change with no problems. I suppose I am trying to blend the para and scientific aspects of tulpa creation. I believe energy feeding is important, but I also can agree that it is a self-induced hallucination. I agree that tulpas definitely have the potential to become dangerous, because just about any sentient being poses a potential risk...one that shares your mind, even more so.
Aiko_M December 19, 2015 December 19, 2015 You might get attacked, but not by me. I view them as both. I have worked with servitors and things before, I wanted Riko to be as close as possible to me. Sometimes when we are in bed together about to sleep, we lay half in each other. Our bodies mingled on the bed, face to face. Riko and I meditate together. One of the meditation methods involves sensory overload, fill your mind with a single thought. I sit with her, face to face, and focus. That works really well for me. When I clear my mind she is still there and that stimulates thought and can make vipassana meditation harder. During the day, even at this moment, Riko is usually in my arms. We communicate "mind to mind" as we prefer that over voice. If you have trouble with narration and worries, I suggest trying to keep the way your tulpa feels in mind. Everyone "feels" different, when you communicate, don't just speak to the concept of your tulpa, hold that feeling in your mind and heart. Know that they are there in every way you can. Soon enough you will feel their presence and know that they want your attention, or perhaps they even just express a concept quietly to your mind. In addition to this, you can hold hands when you talk, touch bodies, smell each other.. there's so many aspects of presence that you can involve to cement the knowledge that your tulpa is there, with you. If you find that your tulpa is harder to contact you may be using your own energy as a source or need to "pass more" to them. They are as versatile as we are, if we permit growth. Ideally they should grow with us, a well formed tulpa will. A restricted image of some teens' sexual fantasy probably won't. Tulpas can be safe, if they are protected. That's why I housed Riko inside me as well, she is safe here. Housed externally she is what is known as an attack vector. The stupid concept of "walk ins" or "prototulpas" is extremely dangerous. Anything could be "knocking on your door" and so many instantly let them in and basically give them the keys to the house. I suggest googling psionic shielding, basic energy work. That can keep you a lot safer. Shield your home, your headspace and your very self. If you feel that you can't clear your mind, focus on keeping that shield up, smell it, taste it, reach out and push it around you... let it steal your wandering thoughts. You can even push that which is bothering you into the shield, visualise it being blown away. Anyway, good luck :) Delete this account - I will not return.
TheGreenQueen June 8, 2016 June 8, 2016 All I can offer is my own experience. https://community.tulpa.info/thread-cutting-the-cord-demons-tulpas Near as I can tell, tulpas are people. So like any other person, you have to either trust them, or not. But more importantly, they are also 'parts' of you. Being aware of what those parts may be . . . that's all a process. I seem to have the opposite of the problem Aiko describes. One of my tulpas is in love with me (even though I've tweaked his corresponding character in his story to be aromantic and asexual), and I don't know what to do about it. I'd prefer if he were independent, like me and the others. For another tulpa, a griffin-like creature, I've fashioned a mate for them, and also stumbled into other pairings through various interaction scenarios, (i.e., I pointed out similarities between two tulpas, but they made the decision on their own to get together) but he doesn't want that. I mean, in his view, I'm a nearly all-powerful force that created both him, the other 'people' he interacts with, and their world. So it's not surprising that he's fixated. But I feel bad all the same. Hearing that about Tulpa's and about how Reisen is able to make you feel better is actually really comforting. Indeed Yudie comforted me once (the first sign of her sentience actually) after an argument I had with someone. I said something about that here: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-spirituality-do-you-use-your-tulpas-for-chi-chakra-flow-or-healing Guess I was being paranoid and worried that she might change the more developed she becomes or something. Guess I owe her an apology. This has been a source of tension for me, as you can plainly see why from my first link. Woodwindwhistler on www.asexuality.org The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings. -Eric Hoffer "We can never achieve perfection, but maybe we can approach it asymptotically. Never give up on plugging in those numbers!" ~Me You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note. –Doug Floyd My poetry: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5qMnL2tDkJYOGNhLW4tRHFHa0E&usp=sharing
TheGreenQueen June 12, 2016 June 12, 2016 Here's a brief article on tulpa dangers, and they describe a technique for re-absorbing them. http://www.psychicsuniverse.com/articles/mind-body/have-you-brought-dangerous-tulpa-your-life "The problem with tulpas is that they can’t just be exorcized like a demon or set to move on like a ghost. Their energy has to be essentially broken down and reabsorbed." I believe I may have done this once. Also, I think this goes without saying, but it seems like people have talked about letting 'walk-ins' into their mind before, and I think that is not a good idea at all. I strongly suspect negative entities can put on masks and take advantage of this. Woodwindwhistler on www.asexuality.org The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings. -Eric Hoffer "We can never achieve perfection, but maybe we can approach it asymptotically. Never give up on plugging in those numbers!" ~Me You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note. –Doug Floyd My poetry: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5qMnL2tDkJYOGNhLW4tRHFHa0E&usp=sharing
Aiko_M June 12, 2016 June 12, 2016 Also, I think this goes without saying, but it seems like people have talked about letting 'walk-ins' into their mind before, and I think that is not a good idea at all. I strongly suspect negative entities can put on masks and take advantage of this. I flat out do not believe "walk-ins", as described, exist. To me it seems as plausible as someone dropping a bucket of paint and accidentally recreating the Mona Lisa. The mind spits out a lot of junk and as you become aware of the processes and aforementioned junk, concepts come to light that can be turned into a tulpa. Maybe someone fantasizes about a personality they would like to meet as they watch their favourite tv show. So they invest time and thought, via belief that it exists, and thusly create it. The mind often entertains thoughts without direct and conscious effort. It doesn't "walk in", it is very likely nothing but an intrusive thought or background noise. They just create it via a lack of pragmatism and the assumption that it exists. Of course, yes.. it is very likely this can be taken advantage of. It could be likened to a con artist.. which stands for "confidence artist". If something can inspire absolute trust in this manner, merely by "walking in", they will. Unfortunately there is a propensity for certain people to label things "a tulpa". I have seen people tell others that mental illness is "a tulpa" and schizoid delusions are completely normal. While we have this kind of thing going on, while we have this utter lack of forethought, contemplation and pragmatism, this foolish crap is going to continue. People are going to suffer. It seems really popular to label such things as a tulpa, it reinforces the confidence of the host and tells them they are doing something right and brings acceptance. There are many about with a distinct lack of social skills and acceptance is seductive. Not only are some going to end up experiencing an increase in the severity of mental illness as they refuse to reject the product of the illness they suffer, but from the metaphysical standpoint, I see this getting bad as well. I commented that somebody needs to speak to a doctor, even if only for reassurance, because the problematic sleep and cognition disturbances they were experiencing were a sign their illness was getting worse.. and I was down voted for it. Primarily by those suffering mental illness. This person was told, irrefutably, they were fine. There was no suggestion they should be cautious or otherwise see a dr. They were not told that their blackouts, memory loss and actions during these periods could be dangerous... they were told it was "just switching". The first thing most people do in a casting, evocation or whatever, is protect themselves. Entertaining the notion that whatever you "hear" is real, is not only idiotic and illogical, but is also downright dangerous. Disclaimer to all: This is my opinion. If you don't like it, move on. Delete this account - I will not return.
Solune June 22, 2016 June 22, 2016 The first thing most people do in a casting, evocation or whatever, is protect themselves. Entertaining the notion that whatever you "hear" is real, is not only idiotic and illogical, but is also downright dangerous. Disclaimer to all: This is my opinion. If you don't like it, move on. For what it's worth, I appreciate the sentiment behind your post. This community could do with a bit more skepticism. "For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love." - Carl Sagan Host: SubCon | Tulpas: Sol, Luna, Alice, Little One, Beast and Solune (me) | Servitors: Odonata, Guardian
greedfox June 28, 2016 June 28, 2016 I dunno who any of the people being referenced here even are, but, I do have a tiny suggestion. Since you said you practiced qigong, I assume you do so through a few forms. You should teach your tulpa to perform the forms with you, and then later on their own as you watch. I practice wing tsun, and we have a drill we call chi sao, or as some call it sticky hands. I spend some of my free time everyday doing chisao with both Liz and shaide and I've found that the complex sensitivity drill is super good at improving their tangibility when imposed. I also spend some time correcting their form in finite detail, both as practice to improve my own skills, but also to improve my ability to teach. I will say, that if you start teaching them fighting skills, that you save some of your best tricks for just you, (just like teaching anyone) just so you can beat them effortlessly if you need. Wouldn't want a rogue tulpa locking you out because it thinks that it can control you.
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