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Was feeling [Depressive mood I frequently post about in my PR when I'm in] thinking about lucid dreaming again, despite starting "Consciousness Checks" a couple days ago (which for all I know could work) because there's little promise they'll do anything when I've felt as sure about them working as literally everything else I've tried in the past 9 years.

 

While staring at my desk, questioning my attempts and failures to lucid dream and whether I've been doing something wrong or just am not meant to, I saw my Messiah's Handbook and figured I'd ask it said question. Here's what it gave me:

 

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While the idea of souls incarnating to experience living a life is reliant on my secondary set of beliefs since my primary ones are agnostic, it was enough to inspire me anyways. Asked the book (you close your eyes and open a random page) a few times about lucid dreaming and it does what it does and basically said to ask myself ("You know nothing til intuition agrees"), so I did, thought about what would most likely lead to success in lucid dreaming. No normal (waking) induction methods work for me because I can't fall asleep without shutting off my mind for a good period of time, and my REM-Dreamer has always been too difficult to time (it starts detecting eye movement after a timer you set by pressing a +10 minutes button, but I can't fall back asleep with the minor anticipation of having it on within the time I set it to). But my REM-Dreamer is definitely still my best bet (I am still doing the "Consciousness Checks" though, I'll write about them later), so I thought of what the problems with it were. The main problem is my inability to fall back asleep once setting it.

 

So I decided I'd just always wear it, and this time always have it on too. It's probably going to not work five times tonight because I can't fall asleep within the time I set it to (increasing the time increases the time I take to fall asleep, yes). And then it'll do the same tomorrow. And the next day. And the next day. And the next day. Well, I've got a pack of button batteries in my nightstand. I'll get used to it eventually.

 

Expect me to have had my first lucid dream in, hmm, six days? Okay realistically I have no idea how long it'll be or if it'll work, but I'm pretty confident in this. Could be a whole month of trying for all I know, but then, a month it will be.

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Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.

Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.

My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.

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It's probably going to not work five times tonight because I can't fall asleep within the time I set it to (increasing the time increases the time I take to fall asleep, yes). And then it'll do the same tomorrow. And the next day. And the next day. And the next day.

 

Let's change this paragraph to this.

 

I'm very optimistic that it's probably going to work. I'll probably get five chances tonight because I will eventually fall asleep within the time I set it to. And then i'll do the same tomorrow. And the next day. And the next day. And the next day. It has to work eventually, i'm not going to worry about it.

 

If i try that many times and it still doesn't work, i'll either get a different one or just stop worrying about it. I love my tulpas and they're happy for me and support me all the time, so that's really enough to be honest, ya know?

When it comes to lucid dreaming, I'm realistic, not optimistic. I was optimistic 9, 8 years ago. I didn't realize I was still optimistic for another 2-3 years after that. But at this point I have zero reason to be optimistic (using this word as it's meant to be, not idolizing it as meaning "remaining positive"), because getting my hopes up only makes failures hit harder and won't make success any less amazing. And since my track record is.. hmmm, somewhere nearing a thousand to zero? I'm going to say it's not worth the hits to motivation to get my hopes up. I'm not pessimistic either, though, which is the big thing. Every thing we try I still believe could and should work. It's the best balance of how to think about things for a long-term endeavor fraught with lack-of-success.

 

Posts on lucid dreaming progress are still going to be in my Dreaming thread until something noteworthy happens, just FYI.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.

Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.

My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.

When it comes to lucid dreaming, I'm realistic. Being optimistic won't make success any less amazing though. I'm going to say, whatever happens happens and i'm just going to enjoy the time I have with my tulpas and not stress about it. It's not worth the hits to motivation to get my stress up. I'm not pessimistic though, which is the big thing. Every thing we try I still believe could and should work. It's the best balance of how to think about things for a long-term endeavor.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

So, I went.. well first, I've started playing Pokemon Go (walked 50km my first week and am about level 22 lol) because it's getting me outside and active. Anyways, I went on a walk in the rain today to hopefully catch some water types because there's no water near us (didn't find too many, by the way), and I imposed Lucilyn with me while I played at one point. She was immediately overjoyed, running ahead with her arms out and everything - if anything it's better she wasn't fronting, so she didn't have to hold herself back in public.

 

Seriously, I don't think I've seen her that happy before, although her first and second lucid dreams come to mind, I don't know if they really win out. Anyways, I guess our imposition is just clear enough, because I've got pretty decent clarity memories of that time now. It was only like five minutes before I was back to being distracted (playing Pokemon Go with my brother, of course), but we'll probably keep that memory for a long time. And if not, well, I wrote about it here.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.

Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.

My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.

Why would she need to hold herself back? I don’t see any problems with a grown man frolicking in the rain.

 

-Ember

I'm not having fun here anymore, so we've decided to take a bit of a break, starting February 27, 2020. - Ember

 

Ember - Soulbonder, Female, 39 years old, from Georgia, USA . . . . [Our Progress Report] . . . . [How We Switch]

Vesper Dowrin - Insourced Soulbond from London, UK, World of Darkness, Female, born 9 Sep 1964, bonded ~12 May 2017

Iris Ravenlock - Insourced Soulbond from the Winter Court of Faerie, Dresdenverse, Female, born 6 Jun 1982, bonded ~5 Dec 2015

 

'Real isn't how you are made,' said the Skin Horse. 'It's a thing that happens to you.' - The Velveteen Rabbit

That would make a grest viral video. *picturing a 6'2" full figured man frolicking in the rain*.

 

It- it just breeds happiness.

Add jumping excitedly in the puddles to make it better.

Lucilyn, can you record that for a private showing at least?

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