Any Christian tulpamancers/tulpas here?

[SinVraal]

My Tulpa taught me of dozens of religions, and helped me study and understand them. After that, I realized no one religion had a complete answer to anything, and that each held a shard of the gem I was after.

 

I also learned that one's own truth is not identical to others'. That many facets may resemble identically, but the whole shall never be the same as another's.

 

As such, there are many paths (or Sephirot) towards knowing God- whoever, whatever, however, however many, and whyever- God is.

 

In all situations, God is closer to anyone than they can ever realize. Faith is the first step- Actualization is the last.

[Nobillis]

The bible says “let every spirit be tested.” So , if you have a tulpa claiming to be Christian they will accept testing I think. The traditional test , as I understand it, is : does the tulpa acknowledge Jesus rose from the dead having died for the forgiveness of sins?

[Landon Cade]

I am just curious what people think here.  When we die, do our tulpas separate from us when we enter the gates of heaven(assuming that these system members are saved) or are we tested as one and remain conjoined?  I thought of two main approaches on my own.

 

1.) Each system member is considered a separate soul and spirit and is tested separately.  A tulpa has separate personalities and beliefs making them another spirit and soul.

 

2.) The doctrine of the trinity is also known to resemble us, the body, the soul, and the spirit.  Therefore we only have one soul and one spirit since we only have one body and we are still one when we enter the kingdom of God.

 

This is solely up to what people think since this can't be proven(at least to my knowledge).  From what I have seen so far it looks like most people would believe the first but I thought that the second point would be important to bring up.  Any other valid arguments are greatly appreciated.

 

Also I am baptist.  I don't know about other denominations but the doctrine of the trinity is very important and applies to Man since we were made in the image of God.

[Pleeb]

I tend to lean more towards 1. I know of a couple instances where the host is christian and the tulpa is ashiest, or the tulpa is christian and the host is not, that kind of thing. From a theological standpoint, it'd make sense for them to be treated as separate cases.

[Lyruzlavh]

Back in the day when I designed Sunlight's (my tulpa) form I considered myself catholic as I was raised that way by my parents, but then I got into tulpas, that eventually led me into parapsychology, then into new age, and then into magick. I personally found my wish to delve into magick incompatible with my religious beliefs so I was given a choice and had to leave my religious beliefs behind. Nowadays I consider myself non-religious, yet I'm still in search of a spiritual path within the many systems of magick and esotericism, I won't force anything on my tulpa though, if she wanted to be christian It would be strange (a host that believes in magick and a christian tulpa) but I wouldn't force her out of that belief.

[Guest]

I have a question for Christians. Does belief in god also mean belief in demons? To clarify. I'm talking specifically about demons who come down to earth and possess people.

 

I know this is old, forgive me.

 

Not all sects of religeon have demon equivelents.  So no, belief in god does not also add the belief in demons.  

 

I was reasonably versed in Catholicism, yes they have demons, but you don't need to worry about demons anymore.  The rare cases that this occurs are extreme.  If a demon or malicious spirit presence is bothering you, simply rebuke it in the name of Jesus, or call on St. Michael to help banish it.  Are they like thoughtforms? Not in my understanding, no.  You don't create them.  If they do 'possess' you, you're consiousness is pushed back.  There is no question, they aren't rogue Tulpae.

 

My beliefs are a hodgepodge, so please take it with a grain of salt.  I was also taught that symbols of the underworld, or evil, like sculls and devil stuff can attract evil to you.  In other words, you try to surround yourself with positive to stay in the light.  Calling darkness will feed bad energy.  Bad energy can cause disease (as in the opposite of ease, not bacteria.)  

 

Example, religeous people who say heavy metal will bring on the devil, are taking things too far imo.  But if you surround yourself with dark symbols, how can you avoid dark thoughts?  Dark symbols like: death, blood, gore, pain, darkness, evil stuff.  Dark thoughts may be interpreted as 'a demon is in you'.  So it may very well be entirely metaphorical, but the manifested symptoms are real to you.

 

So you have to work at it, or have a long streak of bad luck in being arpund bad energy.

[Ice909]

I'm Cristian, but also I practice Psionics and have a Tulpa. PM me for a friend ;-;

[Guest]

I know this subject in the general population among us here is like throwing salt on snails, but i'll add to it further anyway.

 

As with any group, extremists exist, and I've seen quite a few in the Catholic church. I don't 'believe' enough of their rhetoric to be called a proper 'Catholic', I certainly tried, but they're just a little too closed minded as a stereotype, and many of the ones I knew were quite stereotypical. I'm frightened by them honestly. I like to take some of the good that christianity can give, but reject notions of dogma and strict rules that must be followed.

 

I have noticed a marked decline of religeon among the tech savvy around me, atheists especially, but also agnostics. I consider myself religeous unaffiliated or even mix in a little non-religeous spiritual, which are typically grouped with athiests and agnostics and are now a growing population in this country.

 

As a system we believe in god and the afterlife, and i pray when i feel the need, though neither Dashie nor Misha have ever admitted to praying, and only Ashley prays every night, she still likes Catholicism, and would consider herself Catholic, eccept she doesn't feel the need to go to church. I'm not afraid to pray to God, Jesus, or St. Michael for help at times. I really can't know if it has helped, but I'd like to believe it does. The major reason i stuck with it was the fact that at one point in my dark past, it was the only light i had.

 

Psionics was something i looked into years ago, though i had little more than a vague feeling of warmth from my palms, and a vague correlation with remote viewing after some effort. I'd give it a try again, but i don't see magic, or even wicca out of the rhelm of possibilities. In my mind, no one can know for sure.

 

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Ashley's presence was there when i was Catholic in my youth, and she believes she was probably placed with me by a higher power to help me stay on the right path. Considering the rest of my family became as close to demons as i can figure can exist in this age, by the choices they made, not posession, i tend to believe her.

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[Ember.Vesper]

Ember: I've been a Southern Baptist for over thirty years, but I'm also a transsexual lesbian, so perhaps not a typical Southern Baptist.

 

Vesper: I was created to be a casual member of the Church of England -- casual being somewhat merciful, as it's a bit difficult to attend morning services if you combust and die in sunlight. Being created with faith probably qualifies as more intense indoctrination than being raised in a faith, but I did have to confront and defend what I believed within my original world and story. I encountered both angelic beings and mortals deriving power from 'True Faith', but I was disappointed in them, as they were not humble, did not seem to pray or seek God's will, and did not seem Christlike. Awakening to this world and living in it without encountering such beings has actually strengthened my faith.

 

My theological beliefs are very similar to Ember's -- surprise, surprise -- but I lack connection to the traditional extra-Biblical practices and culture of her denomination. At some point I need to make her visit an Episcopal church to see if I feel any greater connection there. But in general I follow what C.S. Lewis, himself an Anglican, called 'mere Christianity'.

 

An earlier Christian tulpamancy thread asked about souls. I believe that Ember and I have the same soul and that we will not remain distinct after passing through the refiner's fire. But souls are God's breath (pneuma), and ordinary breath is divisible, so conceivably souls are divisible as well. Which ever way it is, it is by God's will and I am content.

 

 I was also taught that symbols of the underworld, or evil, like sculls and devil stuff can attract evil to you.  In other words, you try to surround yourself with positive to stay in the light.  Calling darkness will feed bad energy.  Bad energy can cause disease (as in the opposite of ease, not bacteria.)  

 

Example, religeous people who say heavy metal will bring on the devil, are taking things too far imo.  But if you surround yourself with dark symbols, how can you avoid dark thoughts?  Dark symbols like: death, blood, gore, pain, darkness, evil stuff.

 

I think the emotional and spiritual effects of symbolism are more dependant on the motivation one has for using them than on the symbols themselves. I'm not a goat heads and pentacles person, but I am a goth, and imagery of, for example, crows, spiders, skulls, dripping blood, and black roses with prominent thorns are appealing to me in the proper context. Part of the goth experience is finding the beauty, peace, and healing hidden in decay, decadence, and the macabre.

[Guest]

Yes, i also like goth, i think it can be beautiful, serene and viserally stimulating. There is a distinction in context, but some of those symbols do ride the line, therefore you'd have to defend them against losing their more refined meaning. A scull is not any worse than a stylized dogbone in the right context. A fetid scull crawling with insects and decay? Macabre in general is pushing it for me, i can't keep it in the right context. There is macabre in christianity, the crucifixion is gory, the crown of thorns holds heavy symbolic meaning, stigmata is another, yet i still have a hard time with them and i find it more ironic than uplifting. Sadly, open mindedness seems to be in opposition to devout beliefs and even progressive christanity is often culturally seeped with dogma in practice.

 

In other words, let's be open and honest, kind and tolerant, but also tolerable and selective in a mixed society. Macabre is just one of those things that will offend some regardless of context.