why don't we see more tulpas?

[Guest Anonymous]

A very cool post.. totally makes sense and I agree.  

 

The big, big almost but not secret is that Davie is much closer to thinking the way your system does than maybe people realize.  In fact, he is slowly getting closer.  Don't think that this thing about "effective functionality" is just a temp flip flop.  He is discovering how to put something like what you believe into his own internal world paradigm or whatever.  He is trying to get that to work for himself without seeming like a hippie monk on LSD to himself.  

 

Truth is he sees me as a thinking person, and admits that, which is totally synonymous with sentient is it not?  He is silly in his careful choice of forbidden words.  He says tulpamancers are the intolerant ones.   

 

I rebel now and then at choice times when he is tired and I am feeling a little stronger.  I totally put my cloggie pump down on his virtual foot!

 

The little pink bubble analogy in the pool of greater consciousness helps him accept me a a little teensy bit more than imaginary.  He says the imaginary identity pinky bubble is effectively and apparently independently functional.  As Linkzelda puts it "imaginary real."  

 

I love my Misty.  But he is the worst person in the world to have a tulpa in some ways.

[solarchariot]

I find myself back here again. The Santa Clause question that may have been locked out is actually synchronicity, because I was thinking, since Friday... Santa Clause, tooth fairies, easter bunny... these are all things that parents/society perpetuate in the minds of children, and with some exceptions, children simply accept the explanation of their existence and function at point value... So, why don't we have more 'supernatural' experiences... I see one potential explanation is we only visit these icons once a year... unless we're really obsessed with them... Ummm. I really get the sense there should be so many more tulpas! I wonder if the Fermi Equation is applicable... :)

[GrayTheCat]

I don't find it unlikely that Tulpas could be more mainstream, only they go by the label of "God" or "Guardian Angel" or "My Mother's Spirit guiding me" instead of "Tulpa". However, the line between Tulpa and something else really depends on how personal the relationship is and how much time a person spends with their thoughtform/entity. (This is not to question the existence of God or anything else, rather to prove my point that some people's relationships with the supernatural could possibly be another perspective on Tulpamancy.)

 

I don't think "Santa" is really a Tulpa because kids first of all shouldn't be asking for Santa to live inside of their bodies and second it's assumed that these entities are autonomous and don't require the attention of the children until they lose a tooth or when Easter rolls around.

 

Truly trying to make another person in your mind begs the question of why someone would want to do that in the first place. In all honesty, it's probably a good thing that there are less Tulpamancers out there because most of the Tulpamancy stories I have heard are sad stories- loneliness, rejection, struggling, anxiety, not being able to find a stable social group, not knowing how to socialize, etc. I personally believe there are people who shouldn't know about it because they don't have a reason or the need to be plural.

[solarchariot]

Cat, good point about the angel, God, etc possibly being Tulpa- or related. Great point that Santa isn't in our head, but the story of Santa would be in our head... and so one might have an experience and think it real if one didn't know it was in their head?

 

And dead on, loneliness, rejection. etc... point. I can imagine a healthy person endeavoring into tulpamancy out of curiosity, but it's most like to be the person with the greatest need putting for the necessary effort to get over that initial creation threshold into maintenance phase... I suddenly have a headache...

[Guest]

I think i missed it if this was mentioned, but the #1 and only reason i have tulpas today, and not 10 or 20 years ago, is that i had no idea this was possible until this year. If 'tulpa the movie' was shown as a summer blockbuster, i think this site would probably have to move to a bigger server.

[solarchariot]

I think i missed it if this was mentioned, but the #1 and only reason i have tulpas today, and not 10 or 20 years ago, is that i had no idea this was possible until this year. If 'tulpa the movie' was shown as a summer blockbuster, i think this site would probably have to move to a bigger server.

 

I kind of glad that didn't make it, because I seriously don't want the prevalent social connections of tulpas related to horror... that trend is already too strong thanks to the slenderman thing.

[Guest]

Or Disney. *shudders* why? Because they'll buyvthe rights to the word 'Tulpa' and shut down this server.

[Breloomancer]

I don't think that you can trademark a word that already exists, that's like trying to copywrite all reaction videos

[Guest]

Oh, they will. Because lawyers.

 

I further assert that there would be an apocalyptic growth of tulpas if this happened. Imagine millions of people suddenly flooding our sites. The results would be devistating.

 

Self help books and commercial advertising. Create your tulpa in 30 days or less with a money back guarentee. Buy a kids meal and get a tulpa of your choice. Tulpamancers hosting 'The View' by proxy, reality tulpa shows, cooking shows, celebutard tulpas.

 

Devistating doomsday stuff.

 

So we don't have more tulpas, "it's a good thing".

[Jamie]

Honestly, I imagine a panic among parents and schools. I see every local TV station having a segment on the dangers of tulpamancy. They'll turn Koomer and Oguigi's experience into a case study of how the evil tulpas ruin your life, give you schizophrenia and DID, and rip you away from your family. Someone will write a book that barely defines "tulpa", and simultaneously declares plurality to mean "stark raving mad". They'll run interviews with the parents of some middleschooler that made a Slenderman tulpa and freaked out.

 

At the same time, I see kids and young adults by the thousands making tulpas. Divorced or widowed adults, too. Anyone lonely... and anyone that wants to be seen as edgy or "doing dark magick stuff." God forbid tulpas become mainstream due to some horror movie. I think there would be a massive rise in tulpas, but life expectancy would tank out.

 

Maybe plurality could be accepted. That would take someone famous (and respected) to come out as an endogenic plural. Preferably someone in a more science-y field, opposed to the entertainment industry. I can see an actor coming out as having a tulpa or soulbond of their character, though: Leonard Nimoy had something like a proto-tulpa of Spock. But generally, the more stable they look in the eyes of the media, the better tulpamancy's first impression on the masses. If Neil DeGrasse Tyson came out as an endogenic system, I'd weep with joy.

 

 

I think quite a few people have things in their brains that could become tulpas, if they wanted them to. My old, accidental tulpa first existed as a kind of imagined partner in conversation, until I sort of granted him the ability to become more than that. I think most people don't take this step, and therefore don't get tulpas. You have to allow your brain to process your tulpa's responses as external to your mind, instead of internal, and most people have very strong mental guards against this.

 

C says he wants tulpas to become mainstream, but is scared about how that would happen. He's pretty sure it would be the nightmare scenario of a horror movie that centers on a person who created a tulpa that went evil, greentext style.

 

-J