Tulpony April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 Tulpae exist and gain "power" entirely from their host's belief, expectations, and acknowledgment. If the host believes the tulpa is formidable, it is. If the host believes the tulpa is an ordinary tulpa that can be dissipated no problem, it is. The key is to quit doubting, believe they can do it, then just do it. If anything they made it harder by asking for this post and thus reinforcing the belief that this is somehow different. Though I definitely agree that they should try reforming the tulpa first. 99.9% of tulpae want to get along with their hosts, and 100% of tulpae are thought-forms. Thoughts can be changed.
Z-Byte April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 This has an interesting dynamic. It reminds me of trying to get a battered woman/man out of a bad relationship. There is all logical reason for them to leave, but something psychologically is stopping them more often than not (usually fear). Until that hurdle is overcome, then further steps to separate the two will be unsuccessful. The fact of the matter is, the host is more powerful than the tulpa. Always. You can influence your tulpa just as easily as you can influence your dreams in a lucid state. Conversely, just like in your dreams, if you don't believe you can do it, then you won't. If you're not someone who likes to get into a fight, then fighting in a dream will make you feel like you're weak, slow, and unable to throw even a single punch. Trying to run away? If you don't think you can escape this threat, then you will be slow, you will be tired, and you will be caught. The goal is, then, to convince the host that the DO have power over their tulpa. Complete, total, and undeniable control can be achieved at will if so desired. But that's the thing: there must not be any doubt. One sliver of second-guessing, one ounce of "I can't do this," and it defeats the effort. A tulpa that wants to stay will know its host's subconcious, theorhetically being able to abuse it. But it's only using the tools that it's given. Take away the tools and it is powerless. Ideally, convincing the tulpa that it does not need to use this sort of intimidation to control in order to be desired is recommended. After all, assuring it that it won't be destroyed if it lets go of its only "surefire" way of surviving is the first step to a better relationship. At least, that's what I believe. Chrysala Female Personality: ESTJ; Soft-spoken wise counsel, devil's advocate, soothing temperament Body: Western dragon with dark green scales with gold flecks, golden belly scales, sunset-colored eyes Current stage: Personality building Ambrosia Female Personality: ESFP; Cheerful firecracker, seeks to laugh and entertain, childlike curiosity, boundless energy Body: Fairy with wild red hair, dragonfly wings, deep blue eyes Current stage: Personality building
tania April 25, 2013 April 25, 2013 Blending it with another Tulpa I dont think is a good idea at all.. as i will then only contaminate the other. Best I'd think to get rid of it entirely. Im with what others here have said. The tupla being energy (a thought form) is under the control of the host. The big issue is that many people have trouble controlling their own thoughts and energy and getting control of a rogue Tupla may be very hard for some, some may even find this impossible to do. (just like many cant control their LDs which arent even a highly energised thought form which has its own ideas etc). I must admit that when I first saw this site it made me cringe as I dont think many realise the kind of issues they can end up getting into with Tulpas. Those who have made such things in the past have had much experience with controlling thoughts and energy control but now anyone is doing this and it can have all kinds of unexpected results esp to the naive. It is possible for some to get themselves into trouble they cant get themselves out of. Jesse (human male) DOB 16th April 2013 Working on imposition
Chupi April 25, 2013 April 25, 2013 Just dissipate it. And dont tell me that won't work, there is no difference between this tulpa and any other tulpa. It's quite possible for it not to work, and I've heard from a few people for whom this is the case. In these cases it's most likely become something much more like dissociative identity disorder than what most of know as a tulpa. And last I heard there is no cure. Pretty much what glitch said. Jimmy: Any updates on this since what I recommended to you on the IRC? (I recommended making a wonderland for the tulpa so she could do her own stuff there instead of messing with the host's life.) Lyra: human female, ~17 Evan: boy, ~14, was an Eevee Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her My blog :: Time expectations are bad (forcing time targets are good though)
Antylamon April 25, 2013 April 25, 2013 I must admit that when I first saw this site it made me cringe as I dont think many realise the kind of issues they can end up getting into with Tulpas. Those who have made such things in the past have had much experience with controlling thoughts and energy control but now anyone is doing this and it can have all kinds of unexpected results esp to the naive. It is possible for some to get themselves into trouble they cant get themselves out of. "Care to elaborate? The reason my host believes in tulpas is because he's naive, and to my knowledge, he hasn't come across anything overwhelmingly bad."
tania April 25, 2013 April 25, 2013 "Care to elaborate? The reason my host believes in tulpas is because he's naive, and to my knowledge, he hasn't come across anything overwhelmingly bad." I dont think its constructive to this site to do too much open sharing and scare the crap out of some (as then fears will get into things when people are making their Tulpas and then there is far more likely to be issues). All I will say here is that I had a BAD experience with my first Tulpa which scared the crap out of me (I was way in over my head when this occurred and I couldnt find anyone to help with what had happened and even if it happened again, I dont think anyone at this site could help), this was so scary to the point where I told myself I was NEVER going to do another or mess around with this stuff again. Its taken me around 10 years before doing another (Ive gained more knowledge in this time, so Im going into it with far more awareness then the first time and I'm doing all I can do to prevent that other incident in occuring again and with ideas of what to do if it did.. which isnt likely..but then it was such an unusual thing which occurred before. No one could of possibly predicted it. It was something completely unthought of). The most likely gone wrong senario I think is when someone has a Tulpa which becames very strong to the point it starts to strongly influence them. (Your thought forms are part of you and can influence). If the Tulpa has negative traits this could be a very bad thing and some could become fearful of their own Tulpa.. and have the fear energy further feeding the Tulpa making things intensify. Things could get extremely scary for a person and its not like one could go and seek help of a psychologist or psychriastrist and ask how to deal with all the issues the Tulpa is causing. A Tulpa could literally completely destabilise a person emotionally and unhinge someone in this situation mentally all cause the persons own thoughts got out of hand and they developed a fear. Constant severe fear could lliterally send a person crazy or even make someone develop PTSD. A very bad situation like this could drive someone to suicide to try to excape the Tulpa they have become so in fear of (but cant see a psych about). Anyway.. Im talking about some of the worst senarios here, of cause these things dont commonly happen but they can. There are risks to this stuff. Driving a car isnt completely safe.. think of this stuff in much the same way as that. Things can happen. Much good can come out of Tulpas but it also can go the other way if things went wrong. So from the start be sure its really want you want to do and be clear about exactly what you want to create, make sure you know what you want.. and try to learn as much as possible first. If you are unsure if you want to do something like this..then its probably best to dont. Believing in Tulpas isnt at all naive. Its good to have an open mind as its the only way things are discovered for oneself. Jesse (human male) DOB 16th April 2013 Working on imposition
imahaxor April 26, 2013 April 26, 2013 I hate it when people consider dissipation the first option for a tulpa that's aggressive or acting out. That's just cruel and unreasonable. A tulpa isn't like an animal that you can just abandon when you can't deal with the responsibility of living with them; they share just as much of an intellect as you do. And of course, this all stems from the fact that people don't realize the seriousness of creating a tulpa. Some do it for selfish reasons and then they just think they can dissipate it and make all their problems go away. Why is it that I rarely hear of people working out there differences with their tulpa? It's always the same thing, "I've done everything and tried to talk to him/her, but it's no use." That's when they usually start over, resulting in the same vicious cycle. My Tulpa And then it cuts to a scene where you're sitting in a padded cell.
Guest Anonymous April 26, 2013 April 26, 2013 Just to update the situation, I recently discovered some complications in the host's case. Twilight is one of several tulpas, but is not the most damaging to the host. Twilight spends most of her energy keeping another tulpa, Caliborne, asleep so he doesn't hurt the host via forcible possession. While Twilight can forcibly possess when the host is tired, I'm not quite sure of the extent of Caliborne's power. Based on what Twilight implied when I was talking to her, Caliborne is far more powerful than her. I think the host wants both of them gone, but has not acted on it.
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