Can you create tulpas in extremely short amounts of time?

[cornstorch]

If I were to hypothetically lay on my bed and focus on creating a new tulpa for the entire day minus meals, would the span of time needed to create a tulpa decrease?

The answer seems obvious, but I also wanted to see if there would be any negative side effects to this.

 

I get the feeling that I might cause my brain to "overheat" from activity, or that extended focusing might be painful.

 

Has anyone tried this? What were your experiences?

[NoneFromHell]

"Can you create tulpas in extremely short amounts of time?"

 

No, not really. But of course you will make faster progress, if you spend a lot of time with it. You shouldn't expect to create a tulpa in one day or something like that.

If you're not willing to spend time and energy on the whole progress, you should probably stay away from it to start with.

 

And yes, if you spend big amounts of time with forcing, you're likely to get exhausted, headaches, and sometimes dizzyness. Overdoing it isn't helpful at all. You keep your brain busy, and if you reach a point where it get's hard to focus and concentrate, you won't make any progress.

 

Edit: Also I feel like adding that there is no preset time to create a tulpa. The progress rate varies for everyone, and every development is unique.

[RamaLlama]

I think even trying this would fail at that point where you just can't concentrate on one thing hard enough for an entire day. Active forcing is very tiring. You would became tired, bored and you mind would probably start wandering pretty soon. And even if you could I don't really believe it would work...

[Sock]

If I were to hypothetically lay on my bed and focus on creating a new tulpa for the entire day minus meals, would the span of time needed to create a tulpa decrease?

The answer seems obvious, but I also wanted to see if there would be any negative side effects to this.

 

I get the feeling that I might cause my brain to "overheat" from activity, or that extended focusing might be painful.

 

Has anyone tried this? What were your experiences?

 

I remember an older member doing something like this, with a set of five mental figures. He meditated for large periods of time, and eventually got results. But I'm not entirely sure how long it took, but it certainly took more than one day.

 

There's also LinkZelda, who forced for large periods of time each session. But I don't think he did it in a day, either.

 

Personally, I think trying to shortcut the process in such a way undermines the exercise. But I'm less focused on the results of development, and on the fruits that the journey toward the result gives.

 

Peace.

[Vos]

Overexerting yourself will likely just land you with headaches and fatigue. Putting a lot of attention towards your tulpa is always good, and you should try to get into the habit of doing that, but there's no guarantee that anything like this would make things faster. Making a tulpa is supposed to take a lot of time and dedication, and I think that taking shortcuts like this would only detract from the whole experience.

[raymond13557]

It will take a while.. it's like riding a bike for the first time, you got to take it slow and easy. force for alittle then just talk to it, i do this all the time with my tulpa. I just got back into the tulpamancing saddle again so even i am out of the loop, lol

[Chupi]

To be clear on this, there do seem to be some advanced 'mancers who can create a new tulpa very quickly. However, it's almost always people who have created a bunch of tulpas before.

 

Yes, excess forcing will probably speed things up if you succeed at it, but I'd suggest you go at a more normal pace as others have said. It'll be less of a chore that way and you're less likely to get burnt out on forcing.

[Luminesce]

I didn't reply because I've never been one to "force" for hours at a time, since my tulpas just develop naturally as things come up. But your reply is relevant to me I suppose. I don't exactly make a habit of creating new tulpas (after the original three many years ago, I've made only one), but you could say I can do so "very quickly". Time to sentience for Lucilyn was, as far as I can tell, instantaneous. I spent a while planning out the details of her person, but I absolutely did not do any sort of sentience-related stuff until the moment I created her. She seemed immediately sentient, though I hesitate to use the word "aware" as she took some time to adjust to.. existence. She was basically herself from the beginning, but it took about a week for her personality to become stable. And, of course, there's much more to tulpa development than just ability to think and respond, so it's not like she was instantly "done". We spent a lot of time working on her sense of self, going over what she wanted to be and letting her experience a variety of things and situations.

 

But basically, yes, I was able to create a tulpa as most new tulpamancers know them very quickly. And that was because I've had three for about seven years. So after all I just wrote, time to hear something you speedy hopefuls don't want to - their initial development took years. Now, they were relatively spontaneous tulpas and we wouldn't find out about the word "tulpa" for like five years, so we had to figure everything out ourselves. But still, it was a solid year before they were even established to me (and themselves) as sentient, separate people. Another year of sorting out silliness before we were all comfortable with their existence, had relatively stable beings and all that. I believe as late as year three Flandre requested a complete personality overhaul, at which time she was split into two tulpas, the other being Scarlet (whom I don't usually count as she has no interest in being active). And she was basically a completely different person after that, albeit with past experiences still.

 

And all the years after have been relatively passive development in some way. We're all changing all the time, so the word "done" is never really appropriate. But yeah, tulpa development is like a child's development. Even if you could somehow speed up the physical aging process, they still need the experience that only living life can give. So you might as well take it slow. Also unfortunately this isn't a discrete matter of working and accomplishing specific goals, so the longer you spend at a time trying to make your tulpa the less qualitative the development will likely be. Like cramming versus actually studying, you'll get something out of it but it won't be anywhere near as thorough as if you took your time to actually learn the material. And since you're "cramming" to create a whole being, I'd say that extra time and quality is worth it.