Lumi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Moon

[Lucilyn]

I went to sleep at 2 AM and woke up at 7:20 AM ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

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[Lucilyn]

went to sleep at 11:30pm woke up at 7:30am going to sleep rn at 10:30pm bored of no one to play with and I'll be more or less alone for the next two days except like 2 hours a night

[Lucilyn]

all it takes to go to bed at a decent hour is to be bored as heck and have no one to play with

 

oh it's a new moon, maybe they are just innately meh days

[Lucilyn]

I feel like there's so many things I want to do in dreams right now, so many places to be and people to interact with. I wanna do all that... I guess whatever we're doing isn't enough.

 

I had a dream with a few Touhou characters in it, someone took Suika to court for something and she was like you're gonna regret that but then the person's lawyer was Seija and things were set to get pretty crazy and then I woke up

[tulpa001]

That is impressive progress just saying. I don't know how you are doing it, but you are already getting more thorough dreams, and getting touhou characters into them.

[Lucilyn]

I slept in today because I was tired of spending so much of the day alone, but I just had a really cool dream about the Game Grumps playing some kinda Kirby game that was more like Castlevania. It had continuity and they even replayed from a checkpoint after dying, and the bossfight was really cool and strangely consistent/believable for a dream, and we got to celebrate them beating the game! My dreams are rarely that exciting and fun, idk if it was random or progress or the fact that I slept in

[Lucilyn]

I definitely want to lucid dream just as bad as the others, but - sometimes I see old posts by them (usually Lumi) about how long they've been trying, and I kinda feel bad. It doesn't feel like it's been that long to me, so like, it still feels like something I just expect to happen in the near future. But then I stop and think how they've been trying to do this for so long...

 

Well, it's a self-explanatory feeling I guess. Just the feeling of wanting to achieve something others also want to, but knowing they've been trying for so much longer, way before you were around. And naturally I want to say, well then let's just make it happen! But my optimism can't go against all our experience. Like this is me we're talking about and even I'm convinced that maybe we can't do it so easily, even if we really try. That's super sad. See, and I think "So I'm definitely gonna change that!", but like, our brain is afraid of disappointment so it tells me not to. An' no, not like "we can't do it don't get your hopes up", just "It's probably not going to happen right away no matter how much you want it to."

 

Super sad. That's not how I think at all. But it's sad because that's just how our mind feels about it, after years and years of trying, and lots of "We're gonna do it this time, for sure!"s later, idk, the enthusiasm is dead. Well, no matter how they or I or the mind feels about it, I'm still gonna consider us to be getting closer and closer to actually doing it, and I'm not gonna stop trying. Every time I think about saying something like "I'm gonna try really hard" the brain automatically tries to tell me no, but that doesn't fly with my philosophy so now I just want to try even more.

 

The last time Lumi became lucid at the end of a dream, he literally created a door in thin air behind him that led to the wonderland in just a few seconds! First try! The dream wasn't even vivid, it was already fadey, so there's definitely potential for us to get more natural at controlling dreams automatically. We can definitely get to the point where just by normal functioning we will randomly become lucid. Not just by reality checking at weird stuff but by asserting our control over situations by thinking about them! What if, we made a mental note that for every situation where we wanted to accomplish something, we asked ourselves quickly if controlling the dream would work? Like there's way so many things we could do. Remind Tewi to come up with new stuff like that! She'll think of something great and stick to it too!

 

That, is positive affirmation - we got this! Here's this song again it's so nice

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[Lucilyn]

I had an Overwatch/TF2ish dream (when we talk about having dreams like this it's usually the last one we had) that was kinda vivid, like it wasn't what we'd call a vivid dream but it was detailed and immersive. I was fighting a guy with a bow (Hanzo) as a "girl" with a bow, even though I had an ability he's supposed to have and, uh, a bow, I think I was supposedly playing the support sniper (Ana) we played in the past. Anyways, I was low on health so I hid behind a building and waited for him, but he didn't come, and I thought I saw him through cracks in the walls - but APPARENTLY it was someone else and he had actually gone to cap the objective. So in my dream UI I see the last point get capped and we lose TF2 style where you just run around without your weapon and the winning team can kill you. And I was like, srsly, so I just stood still as the person I thought was him came over. And it was apparently Overwatch's Scout (Tracer), and she was like a super good sport, like she knew what happened and said something like "Better luck next time!"

 

I told that entire dream just for the last part, for some reason her being a really good sport (and not killing me, which in TF2 you typically do for more points) stuck with me after waking up. Man. Can I really lucid dream playing actual IRL-video-games and play with nice people like that?

 

I'm starting to think the amazing possibilities of lucid dreaming are not justified-ly rarely talked about because of how hard it tends to be. No way, people work way harder for lots more things in their lives. Lucid dreaming is 100% a good time investment no matter who you are, probably. I mean I just wanna walk around forests, interact with the others and maybe play vidya games "IRL" (and also just explore places in general), BUT I know that you can also use lucid dreaming for practical things. Like, we once heard someone on Dreamviews say they practiced playing music in lucid dreams. Not learning music, 'cus that won't work, but practicing what they already knew to get more comfortable with it. And lots more people use lucid dreams as inspiration for their art, even music somehow! A less fun but still awesome thing people sometimes use lucid dreaming for is to get over fears they have, usually nightmares I guess but also other things. The possibilities are ~relativelyLiterally endless! And at least in most cases, people that get good at lucid dreaming can make the dreams really realistic, so all that stuff is super effective at what it's for!

 

I know I enjoy dreams already that aren't even that clear, and that don't even do exactly what I want, so I'm 100% sure I would love lucid dreaming. Also I feel like our lucid dreams will be very vivid for some reason. I guess some people (like Tulpa) say they aren't always for them, but for us at least they gotta at least be vivid-dream level. 'Cus a lucid dream is just a vivid dream where you know you're dreaming. Uh, right? Maybe that's not true, maybe some people can have non-vivid lucid dreams, huh. Well, making your lucid dreams vivid (usually called dream immersion) is just another part of learning "dream control". Ya can probably make it better if it isn't so great at first.

[tulpa001]

Well, I would like to point out that my host's non-vivid dreams are boring work dreams. They are probably very similar to what some people call fever dreams. Restless, not very fun, and not really immersive at all. Sometimes the dream consists of nothing more than the sheets and tables that she reviewed over the day. No first person or even an avatar, weird beliefs about made up responsibilities and deadlines, and varying levels of lucidity.

 

I don't think anything is possible in lucid dreams. Not compared to the stories my host has invented or followed. Some of them are pretty neat, but video games and books and philosophy and social stuff are better. I think that dreams would only look better than the amazing possibilities that the real world has to offer if you were running away from something. Sorry for being cliché.

[Lucilyn]

I disagree that video games are better than lucid dreams unless you're specifically playing with friends, but then in the long term almost anything is better with friends

did you just say philosophy itself is better than lucid dreams, are you ok

it's less that we're running away from something and more that we don't even get to fully exist in the first place ;D

 

Had to babysit dog today, that's irrelevant, but I ain't got nothin' relevant.