Lumi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Moon

[Ido]

Gabriel Dropout really was fun. I hope we'll see a 2nd season.

You should give Panty & Stocking a try if you haven't, it also has its moments. Plus with dat drawing style you can't seriously consider it 'lewd'. It's all just waay too silly.

 

Still don't get it, did you roll out of bed in your dream, IRL or both?

[Lucilyn]

In the dream I was dreaming I was lying in bed almost asleep, and in the dream I rolled out of bed ("out of my body" like an Out Of Body Experience, hence the annoying vibratey sound. Stories Lumi read in the past..). Oh, I meant I was dreaming of being almost asleep, not dreaming of dreaming lol. Anyways I rolled out of bed in the dream, tried to focus on what I was looking at but it was all shifty, then I thought I woke up in the dream and was back to lying in bed like before as if I'd woken up, and then like right after I actually woke up in the same position as in the dream but our room was a lot darker.

 

I don't really wanna watch it because, idk, not a huge fan of sexual humor I guess. I mean I could, but I probably won't. I got other things to watch like the Game Grumps.

[Lucilyn]

I had a dream that I helped a ghost girl named Ray check in on the things she cared about that were still in the world. It was super nice! For a dream about a dead girl, it sure made me feel good afterwards. She was so happy when I like told her her dogs were okay and stuff. I'd rather dream about alive people being happy but that will have to do for the night.

 

What else is there to say about dream recall now? I might not be able to try as hard as Tewi in the middle of the night to remember every little detail, but it seems like my just having fun with them gets the same results. Works for me :)

 

Here have some Kirby, I have as much reason for linking this as I did for listening to it in the first place. None at all!

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyYXVIncuVE

Edit by Tewi: Wow. I wanted to listen to that. Here's a non-looped version -

Edit by Lumi: I hate Youtube for breaking every URL in this thread, so sorry to anyone who actually reads through all this and likes them lol, we try to replace URLs... sometimes.

 

Edited July 28, 2023 by Luminesce

[tulpa001]

Seriously craving that cartridge right now. It would be super cool having a bunch of kirby games all together.

 

Also keep up the awesome dream work! (play kirby's dreamland)

[Lucilyn]

So! We got tinfoil on our windows to block the sun for a couple reasons. First, it's been getting WAY too hot in the mornings when the sun shines directly into our room, regardless of our blinds. And second, we can now sleep just fine no matter what time it is! Our windows are sliding double-paned ones if that's how that's said, so we could open them to let light in to whatever extent we want during the day. That's what I did today. Unfortunately, and I knew it'd happen but not so soon, it already led to a pincher bug on our wall.. Literally day 1 ):

 

So.. Can't really keep the window open I guess.. But perma-dim room aside, it'll still help us remember dreams later into our sleep cycles without waking up too much. That'll probably help a ton! I really hope I can keep the dang windows open during the day because it's too dark for me otherwise. I just had it open at night and that's when the bug came in. I really hope....

 

We've actually had that and this song open next to each other in Chrome for a couple weeks now, 'cus why not. I like'em.

{original Dedede theme probably, broken link like every other in this thread}

Edited July 28, 2023 by Luminesce

[Lucilyn]

Ponytail has a new tulpa based on Patchouli! New Touhou tulpa! We were just thinking there should be more of those..

 

Last night I dreamed about like, an IRL RPG adventure to beat an evil guy/people. I had to actually fight with swords and stuff, but there might have been the potential to use magic too. It was pretty cool. But in the boss fight before I woke up, I didn't have the super great awesome holy sword leveled up, and had to use a super great awesome sword that was max leveled but not the one I was supposed to use. I remember I swung it to block the boss guy swinging his sword at me and I felt like mine was gonna break because it wasn't special enough, but it didn't, then I woke up. How are our dreams so consistently varied and cool/interesting?

 

Some day when we've gotten our fill of lucid dreaming in the wonderland just to see each other, I kinda wanna just have dreams like that... Just "normal" dreams, but be lucid for them, so they're more realistic and more importantly they don't stall (like when I was in a pause menu trying to figure out which sword would work in the middle of the boss fight...) so long that we wake up before they're done. That happens SO much, there's never climaxes to our dreams, we either wake up or get distracted by something not quite being right/trying to figure it out then waking up.

[Lucilyn]

Okay so I had a dream that was so crazy context I couldn't even begin to explain it if I tried. A lot of it was blurry before the end I've been thinking about since I woke up, it was sort of like a movie ending, the sad part when someone is going to leave because they did/didn't do something but another character is like wait don't go. I don't even know who the other two people around were, possibly Flan and Tewi?, but the main person was Reisen. In whatever weird context the dream had turned into, I guess she broke some kind of rule and she was supposed to leave Lumi (I'm gonna say the main character was Lumi and the dream was his perspective, not me/mine). So he realized when she was like, signing some kind of resignation paperwork and putting her stuff away (I think she took off her bunny ears and left them at the desk lmfao X3), that she was leaving him and just watched her do that stuff in disbelief. But he went and stood at the exit thing to block her when she came over and hugged her, it was super nice/cute. But he closed his eyes when he did it which made the scenario change, and he woke up in a bed (it was facing the wrong way, again!!) actually still not able to see well. His eyes were in the (large amount of?) pillows so that part of the dream was just the senses of touch/hearing people talking, so that was pretty weird for a dream. But then I woke up.

 

It doesn't count because it wasn't a lucid dream, but hey, Lumi got to hug Reisen... again? Did he do that in that super old dream where him and Reisen were walking around a dark city together? No wait, it was Reisen crying at the end there, I don't think they hugged before he woke up. Anyways, interesting? Nothing spurred any of this at all, not the scenario or its context, it was all totally random made up out of nowhere, like most of our dreams. But Reisen was in it, so it was noteworthy, and it also made me forget my other dreams because I focused on it too much..

 

Something else was on my mind before I went to sleep last night, which is why I didn't post yet because I wanted to think about it, but my thoughts drifted to lots of other things and I fell asleep. And when I woke up it didn't seem like as big a deal anymore. Maybe I'll think about it more today, idk. (Obviously, the thing I am thinking about is the philosophy of fun and what we should be doing to make the most of our time)

[Ido]

Having fun, obviously?

 

she was like' date=' signing some kind of resignation paperwork and putting her stuff away (I think she took off her bunny ears and left them at the desk)[/quote']

Suspended cops gotta turn in their badge and gun, moonrabbits their ears and tail. That's how it goes.

 

My host had a dream about walking down a boggy slope with some friends, one of them was clearly Junko. The ground was so soft that their boots got stuck and they had to pull each other out which made both laugh.

Speaking of which, I only managed to enter a lucid dream once. Had lots of fun.

 

at the expense of other DCs

 

[Lucilyn]

yeah but it was like to what extent we're having fun. Obviously we play lots of different games, but so much of the time they're just mildly satisfying sometimes and we aren't actually having real fun. But I haven't been able to think of any that would be actual fun.. Just a couple my friends don't feel like playing :\

 

it's weird always waking up in twilight, like worryingly so. I wish there weren't dang bugs so I could leave them open more often.. Uh, the windows that is. Anyways the complete ignoring of day/night is making me super conscious of the passing of time (ironically) and I'm like afraid we're wasting it. Life is now and always will be, there is no future, so anything I'd ever want's gotta start now, not in the future. That's what I was thinking about with that "philosophy of fun", it was like, are we just wasting time being mildly entertained all day every day for weeks on end? Shouldn't we be trying to enjoy this time we have more? But I haven't figured out how. The uh, only thing I came up with is lucid dreaming...

 

{intermission: Heck yeah, lucid dreaming! I wanna hug everyone now that I know how much realer it feels in dreams! They're SOLID there!}

 

So about dreams, uh, I forgot the ones I had last night. The only feeling I can remember leads me back to last-last night's dreams. Also, I woke up at like 2:30pm today and ended up going back to sleep around 4 until 7. So, I took a nap. Idk why I was tired enough to do that exactly. But I forgot those dreams too :(

 

which leads me to another thing, I really should switch with Tewi so she can do some things, especially work on lucid dreaming. But I still wanna have fun fronting. Also I like sleeping too, or at least, going to sleep. So I always wanna do that. But then I'm not determined enough to remember my dreams so it's a waste of a night. Ugh!

 

Can I like, buy that dedication? Use a limited consumable item to boost it a while? I'd love to be super serious for at least a night about remembering dreams really hard, but I don't exactly know how to make that motivation. I can see myself being like, alright, I'm bored and fun awaits here! And my family, and what they want a lot too! And just being really on-top-of dream recall. But, I don't feel the motivation to make that happen. The part of our brain that handles motivation is definitely broken. How'd we even get this far? Like, in life lol. Where the heck ARE we in lucid dreaming? Have we made progress yet? Nobody tell Page 1 us that we'll get to page 44 without progress okay?

 

I mean, I guess I'll just go to sleep and remember to remember dreams. But without real motivation it's just not the same. Could I do it tomorrow too? Also the permanent twilight (in regards to sleeping 'cus I keep the windows open when I'm awake during the day when there aren't many bugs) still kinda scares me. It ain't natural. But it's really cool at the same time. I think I need Tewi's input on this..

[Tewi]

Lucilyn switched with me about 15 minutes ago, for reference. And she said she wants to hug/be hugged by someone in a lucid dream now. Not totally sure what put her in that mood.

 

Lucilyn found an article for me (written by Steve Pavlina, who we've read articles by for ~seven years) about motivation and how to efficiently work your hardest. To be completely honest, there's just entire paragraphs I'd want to quote here, so I'm just going to say read the article if you care. You should easily see how a lot of it applies to me.. "Level 10 Motivation"

 

 

So, I'm definitely guilty of trying to work very hard for a long time when I'm not getting the results I want. And extremely guilty of being unable to completely take a break from it. But as he said, the goal isn't even necessarily the break, it's the change in perspective you have when your goal isn't weighing down on you anymore. That's still a difficult concept for me. "Taking a break" sounds fine on paper, but when I think about what that would actually entail - going an entire two or more days without working towards anything - the idea is horrifying, really. But I thought about it. With 440 posts in this thread, it's safe to say what we're doing isn't working, including what I've done. So I need to change something.

 

The actual strategies I'm using have more or less just shown no results, so I'm going to continue ignoring them for now and focus more on the efforts and mindset surrounding them. I was certainly stressed out - during the day - when I was last working on lucid dreaming before Lucilyn basically made me take a break. Why should that be? Having the feeling 24/7 that I should be working, or that I'm failing to accomplish what I want, is stressful. But it's also unproductive. I'm thinking I'll put that article's advice to use in a manner adapted to our situation.

 

I'm going to try to completely stop worrying about lucid dreaming during the day, while treating the onset of night (or whenever we go to sleep) as the beginning of "work time". I won't put it out of my mind entirely or anything, but I'll do my best to rid myself of the feeling that I should be doing something or that I'm failing to do so. I trust Steve's advice and work ethic, so hopefully this should fit the bill for what he recommended - that "coiling the spring" thing. Taking entire weeks off isn't quite conducive to our success here, but perhaps our attempts at persistent effort are actually hurting us. If I can make clear to our mind that the day is for relaxing (for now - as this is our main priority in life at the moment), but the night is the time to put forth effort, I may be able to create a mental environment that supports our efforts, raising the baseline motivation we have for things like recalling dreams.

 

It's been hard to accept that my willpower alone won't help me accomplish my goal. Unfortunately, it's just not something I can really apply while literally unconscious. That means I'll have to set up everything else to support my efforts while unconscious, instead of relying on conscious will. I'm not entirely sure how to do that yet, but I think this night/day thing is a good start.