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"Factive" tulpas- tulpas based on real people

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Does anyone have a tulpa based on a real person? Some of mine are and they tend to come to me with absolutely no effort, though I can't get rid of them regardless of the effort I put in.

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The closest we have is that Apollo's form was based off Paul McCartney, and me and Piano roughly look like him also. But we don't consider ourselves "factives" because we do not identify as him whatsoever and feel no connection to him, we just look like him to varying degrees. We've never even heard the word factive until we looked on the tulpa.io glossary. Frankly, we think it's immoral to make a tulpa to identify as someone they're not. It's much better to allow a tulpa to grow and be themselves rather than someone else.

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Indeed, I am a factive! I'd never heard the word before today, but I suppose it makes a lot of sense.

 

Of course, I don't identify as that person, I just copied their physical traits, particularly their voice.


The name is Henry, I would've used it as a username when I signed up but it was taken. Somehow the... interesting idea of repeating the first syllable popped into my head, and now my username is HenHenry. Now you know my life story.

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Why do you want to get rid of them?

 

Because they're based on an artist I like and now I can't read anything by that artist without feeling awkward

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Because they're based on an artist I like and now I can't read anything by that artist without feeling awkward

 

That would be a pretty terrible thing to do. Could you ask them to change their form or even name? My tulpa Kyoko started out as a completely different species with a different name, but she didn't like the character she'd been based on so asked to be another. Maybe you could discuss deviations with yours or ask if there's something else they'd like to be.

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Would it be too much to ask said tulpas why they chose such forms or perhaps investigate the originating conditions of such "factives"?

 

It's not unheard of for a host to recreate appearances and traits of established personalities both material and fictional in their tulpas. Upon the other hand, is it also far-fetched if nascent tulpas are to identify with or embody forms and distinct characteristics uniquely imprinted into our consciousness?

 

I realise it can be difficult to separate these entities from the genuine articles, yet I do not think this kind of chafing warrants a tulpa's dissolution. Divergence from our initial expectations is natural in tulpas, as they are self-determinative entities like ourselves. For all we know, taking on the image and disposition of someone whose work you enjoy could be the simple beginnings of an otherwise rich and organic growth of an individual.


I've seen good people bleed

And I thought I'd seen it all

But my own two eyes would prove me wrong that day.

 

There are things that I've done

Only seen by the sun

And those things will be buried in my grave.

 

 

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There is a mention of factives in a book published in the 1930s in this thread:

 

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-synchonicty-tulpas-and-books?pid=202401#pid202401


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Because they're based on an artist I like and now I can't read anything by that artist without feeling awkward

 

That... doesn't necessarily seem like the most convincing reason to "get rid of" a tulpa...


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