Possession Video

[glitchthe3rd]

The autism, it's over nine thousand.

[Slushie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAcmuVFoYfM

I've seen that before. It doesn't look legit to me. He suddenly slows down writing his own name when they're writing "together", and you can notice he keeps pausing in the middle of writing them both when he switches attention between the two. Plus "her handwriting sucks" is too convenient an excuse for what's more likely just him not writing as well with his non-dominant hand.

 

I could achieve the same results without much practice. Something much more substantial than that would be needed as any kind of proof.

[OldDrunkBastard]

I was reading on a theory called Solipsism, and I read about a theory called "doublethink". They're basically ideas which state that "The mind and belief control reality". So, for example, if you walked into your room believing, in full certainty, that a rock was on your bed, you would find a rock on your bed, and that that logic can be applied to everything. So, I imagine it works that same way with tulpae. If you believe it to be true, therefore it will, and if you believe it to be false, then of course it won't. Being that tulpae are the creation of one's mind, all that is required is belief. The tulpae phenomenon is true if you believe it to be. Case closed.

[Viceroy]

Gotta go with Slushie on this one. ODB: You're spouting nonsense.

[Koji]

"doublethink"

EDIT: Due to the fact that my post was retarded, I'm going to rewrite it.

ODB, if that was how it worked, almost everyone would have an imposed tulpa in the first week, if not day. I'm not saying I don't believe it, but it seems unlikely.

[OldDrunkBastard]

The word "doublethink" in itself means a long list of different things. Knowing what doublethink means requires an act of doublethink.

And Viceroy: The very best thing about the theory of Solipsism? NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR DO, YOU CANNOT PROVE IT WRONG. Go ahead and try, you'll get nowhere besides a long and painful circle of mindfuck. And it's not quite fair to call something nonsense if the idea itself has no valid theories against it :) So please, let's not argue about it.

And let's not fight, and use words like nonsense. How about, instead of instantly denouncing something as nonsense, you first make an attempt to understand it, then create a theory as to why it's nonsense, and then, in a polite manner, state your theory. If these forums are going to end up as just a bunch of flaming philosophy arguments, it's no wonder as to why people outside the tulpaverse look at us the way they do.

[Tungan Ninja]

I think it is best if we break up this intellectual dispute before the whole thread is derailed.

[Lolimancer]

I don't think that's how it works. In fact, i'd say tulpacreation can work even with just "being open to the possibility that your tupper is real". Also, anyone who can delude oneself to such an extent is probably completely crazy already. Not that it would be an entirely bad thing, but - no, things aren't there just because you wish they are and no, tulpaforcing isn't a process devoid of internal logic where you manifest whatever you want to in whatever moment you want. You aren't the god of your own mind; your mind is a god to you. Even if we take solipsism for true as a theory, you would have to admit there are circumstances outside your control, even in what you perceive to be your own internal world. Probably not going to debate any further, though.

[PsychedelicDiamond]

I was reading on a theory called Solipsism, and I read about a theory called "doublethink". They're basically ideas which state that "The mind and belief control reality". So, for example, if you walked into your room believing, in full certainty, that a rock was on your bed, you would find a rock on your bed, and that that logic can be applied to everything. So, I imagine it works that same way with tulpae. If you believe it to be true, therefore it will, and if you believe it to be false, then of course it won't. Being that tulpae are the creation of one's mind, all that is required is belief. The tulpae phenomenon is true if you believe it to be. Case closed.

 

The term "Doublethink" originates from George Orwells 1984 (Which, of course, we have read because it's an important part of our culture so i don't have to tell you that you should read it right now because obviously you already have) where it was used as a tool of oppression. O'Brien, a high ranking member of a totalitarian party torturen Winston Smith, the books protagonist until he genuinely beleved O'Brien was holding up five fingers when he was actually just holding up four fingers. The point the author was trying to make that if a totalitarian government, is effectually almighty if it can convince the people it's oppressing that it is. And that in this situation no one would dare to question their authority.

 

So, no, "doublethink" is not a positive thing.

[Guest Albatross_]

I think it is best if we stop intelligent discussion before it gets good

 

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