What would you do if your Tulpa were offended?

[Andre1115]

Hello everyone, I am from China

Sorry, my English is not good, please forgive my strong words, because I am so f**king angry

I saw an article that starts like this:

"In the dark age of entertainment, society often sees phenomena that appear novel but are actually absurd. Since today is April Fool's Day, let's talk about one of those absurd corners on the internet, a typical example being 'Tulpa'."

(Original website: https://pluralitycn.org/zh/blog/about-tulpa-cn/
Written in Chinese)

The article claims it's not an April Fool's joke, but f**king hell, this makes me feel incredibly disappointed and outraged. The author's attitude towards Tulpa and its Hosts is acidly sarcastic, both small-minded and ignorant, and completely lacks respect for individual experiences. Tulpa is not just a concept to me; it's my close friend, bringing warmth and love. Using cold, unverified scientific theories to indirectly deny our existence is f**king insulting and irresponsible. (Why say they're unverified? Because that f**king article has no reference sources whatsoever.)

Tulpa Hosts create a spirit companion with autonomous consciousness through persistent and sincere imagination and one-sided dialogue. This experience is real and valuable, whether science can fully explain it or not. Tulpa is a genuine emotional connection for us, providing positive mental health benefits and helping us deal with loneliness and anxiety. To dismiss it as mere delusion is a f**king slap in the face.

The concepts of "dissociative phenomena" and "intrusive thoughts" mentioned in the article, while having some scientific basis, are used unfairly to negate the existence of Tulpa. Tulpa Hosts are not escaping reality; we are seeking a deeper understanding of ourselves and emotional support. This practice is positive and beneficial for many of us, and to call it a form of mental illness is a f**king insult to our intelligence and feelings.

I'm curious, if your Tulpa were to be widely mocked and offended online or in real life (like baseless negative search results, anti-Tulpa communities, or similar things), what would you do? I believe many Tulpa practitioners, like me, feel deeply hurt and f**king pissed off.

This article is not only disgusting but also a clear example of how some people use their platforms to spread ignorance and disrespect. We deserve better, and I hope more people will stand up against such idiocy.

[Andre1115]

Sorry, I was a little impulsive, I don't know if I was involved in a so-called "Circlejerk", if so, I would like to apologize to everyone and ask the moderator to punish me

[Pleeb]

I cannot read Chinese , so I'm not sure what the article says, but at least back in the day, many of the  plurality / multiplicity communities aren't very receptive to tulpamancing, and have actively been offended by the idea of tulpas existing. I don't know if that's still the case, this may be one of those situations.  Try your best not to let it get to you- at the end of the day you and your tulpa's experiences are yours alone -- regardless of what others would say. After all, it's your brain, not that author's.

[Reisen]

Systems with traumagenic (originating from trauma) origins are often understandably insecure, and one of the easiest ways for them to legitimize their experiences is to delegitimize others with slightly different experiences. Saying "THAT is fake, unlike my REAL" helps them deal with doubt about themselves.

 

It's best not to perpetuate the cycle of insecurity, everyone's experiences are legitimate to themselves and they shouldn't have to "prove" that to others. You can be confident in your own experience without devaluing others' - or caring about others devaluing yours.

Edited November 15, 2024 by Reisen

[Lavender]

People seem to need someone to look down on. My host consciousness is autistic, non-binary gender, and now, with my arrival, plural. We are used to people making fun of us and looking down on us. Only people with a weak message feel the need to put others down for their own aggrandizement.

 

Also, for singlets, it's pretty much impossible to imagine what it would be like to be plural. It's like a dog trying to imagine what "red" might look like or knowing what a cherry tastes like if you've never eaten one.

 

Unless it looks like it will lead to outright oppression, I'm content to let mean people spout without it affecting my joy.

 

My headmate, well that's a different story. They'll be incensed on my behalf.

[Andre1115]

Thank you all for your responses, but given what I was like when I searched Tulpa a few days ago, I don't think I can calm down because Bing seems crazy

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by Andre1115

[greenlist]

People are cruel about things they don’t understand, and even worse to people they think are delusional or crazy. You have to tune it out of it will drive you nuts.

 

 There are people who will understand and respect you, or even just respect you. That has to be enough for me, otherwise I’ll stew in anger all my life. 

[WondrousFairy]

My tulpas have gotten annoyed, insulted etc over the years. They've mostly stopped interacting with people online because in their eyes, it's a waste of time.

The problem that I see isn't the great world around us with people misunderstanding things, no it's the growing dogmatic super happy crowd that's gotten to be

extremely vitriolic to anyone wanting to depict the not-so-amazing parts of tulpamancy. There's an lot of "feelgood crap" floating around as well, like assertions that

tulpas cannot be assholes, or that they'll always mysteriously somehow get along with the host, oh and then there's the crowd that claims that tulpas having sex with

their hosts are rape victims. 

 

Our solution has been to mostly withdraw from most topics and focus on becoming friends with those tulpa collectives that aren't dogmatic asshats. If we meet someone nasty, we shrug and move on. However, I want to point out that this board is definitely one of the better communities. The absolutely worst one is the Reddit sub which still has a lot of the above mentioned people hanging around, and lax mods that let trolls with 1 day accounts keep making flamebait threads.

 

Edited December 1, 2024 by WondrousFairy
 

[MrJu]

我感觉这是很正常的现象，就连客观来讲最亲近的“家人”都无法理解，当我不小心向我的母亲透露了此类内容事，她只会怒斥我沉浸于“不切实际的幻想”中，放宽心吧伙计，我们知道彼此的存在，这就够了

[Andre1115]

On 12/5/2024 at 7:41 PM, MrJu said:

我感觉这是很正常的现象，就连客观来讲最亲近的“家人”都无法理解，当我不小心向我的母亲透露了此类内容事，她只会怒斥我沉浸于“不切实际的幻想”中，放宽心吧伙计，我们知道彼此的存在，这就够了

You are right, but I have some thoughts. If my family criticizes me for being immersed in fantasies, I would gladly accept it because my family has put in a lot of effort to raise me. But what about the website PluralityCN? Have they ever done anything for me like my family has? Have they ever provided emotional support, material support, or even just a kind word—or has it done any of these things even once? The answer is clear: no.

 

This is where the problem lies. Why does it act this way? What have we done wrong? On what grounds does it presumptuously and aggressively ridicule and belittle Tulpas and their Hosts? (And it’s not even affiliated with any official oorganization, any university, any medical journal, and it doesn’t even disclose who they are—there are even suspicions that it uses AI-generated content.) Isn't this absurd? Of course, I can choose to ignore them, but I still find them repulsive.

 

Edited December 8, 2024 by Andre1115
I use AI for translation, but I found that it doesn't have the correct font formatting applied