Easier When Parroting?

[Joukai]

So, I've been working on my Tulpa, Zoe, for about 8 days now, and I've narrated to her constantly. I've visualized her for 3 of those 8 days for about 5 hours.

 

I can imagine her both by FAQ_man's method of taking a snapshot of my room and visualizing her on top of it, and visualizing her in the small wonderland I've made, wherever tickles my fancy. (Near a big tree, on the beach, in this underwater glass tunnel, ect)

 

What's interesting is that I find it much easier to visualize her if I make her move, breath, stand with posture, or especially, walk, and I'm not so sure if this is helping or hurting her actually becoming vocal and fully sentient (I've felt alien emotions so far on an occasion, that's about it). Especially with her face and eyes, if I visualize her with an emotion it's much easier to see her face. Making her roll her eyes makes it easier to see them, ect.

 

Making her stand like a statue in either my wonderland or in the mental snapshot of my room is doable, but harder to focus on.

 

Summarized, is it bad to move her visualized form like this? Would it be better to wait on giving her form until she is sentient and vocal so that she can move the form herself? Or can I do whatever is most effective?

 

And if I shouldn't move her, how do I go about visualizing parts of her body that are covered, like the bottoms of her feet, the sides of her torso under her arms, ect?

[Viceroy]

Most believe puppeting doesn't hurt in the beginning, as long as you are still keeping doubt as to your tupper's sentience and independent thought process at bay. If it helps you visualize then it helps you visualize, which is a good thing. Just don't let it hurt your acceptance of them as an independent being in the long run.

 

Others can tell you more about this; my tulpa has no form and this opinion is merely parroted.

[Guest EnnervateIndustries]

From other users on the forum (I have different experiences) she could simply be restless or bored with standing still. Essentially, being forced to stand still gets really boring and she wants you to let her move around more.

 

I did form a little differently, I gave Maia an appearance of life from the start so that I wouldn't be talking to a statue. Then again, visualization is easier for me than most, so the process is different for everyone.

[waffles]

Parroting or puppeting doesn't really inhibit sentience as long as you:

-Are aware that it is such

-Don't mistake real movement for puppeting.

 

Though I don't think it is commonly mentioned, it is quite a bit easier to visualise something moving. If you have trouble visualising then do whatever helps you really. However, f you think that you are going to puppet too much then you can leave form until after sentience, no problem.

[Joukai]

Parroting or puppeting doesn't really inhibit sentience as long as you:

-Are aware that it is such

-Don't mistake real movement for puppeting.

 

That clicks as "easy enough", but thinking about it makes it feel like a thinner line to walk at this stage when I feel reactions so sparingly.

 

Thanks for the tips, I think I'm going to keep visualizing her while moving and try to be extra observant of what actually happens so I can pick up on what is actually her. Being aware that I'm parroting is easy, catching when her movements are autonomous might be a little bit harder for me.

[waffles]

 

That clicks as "easy enough", but thinking about it makes it feel like a thinner line to walk at this stage when I feel reactions so sparingly.

 

Thanks for the tips, I think I'm going to keep visualizing her while moving and try to be extra observant of what actually happens so I can pick up on what is actually her. Being aware that I'm parroting is easy, catching when her movements are autonomous might be a little bit harder for me.

 

Nope, both are easy.

If you are not consciously puppeting or parroting then it's autonomous. If you listen to your subconscious, it doesn't speak, or move, so why would you think that you are 'subconsciously' parroting or puppeting? If you don't know that you're doing it then you aren't.

[123jozef]

Thanks for making this topic (And thanks for the guys that answered his question)

I've been doing this a lot recently myself, although I imagine him with my eyes open in the real world, so I have to make him follow me around by parroting and it makes me feel like I'm doing it wrong.

This gives me a little relief, I just have to remember that what I'm doing isn't actual sentience. Thanks guys :>