Possession After Death

[Heaventhief]

that is kind of different i ma not asking directly about the tulpa/servitor staying and just hanging out but rather it moving the flesh body about.

[Couguhl]

yeah but even when the body dies muscles and the like can still move they just lack input from the brain. i am suggesting that the tulpa could provide that input.

 

Medically, this is impossible.

Aside from that, ask yourself this: what would begin to happen as the body breaks down? Theoretically if the tulpa could actually possess the body, I don't see how it can remain in contact with trillions of trillions of atoms as they scatter for the next millennium.

[Laurora]

Tulpas are not another brain. They are another conscious. When you die, EVERYTHING dies. Even the brain. When the brain dies, ALL the memories and consciouses also die. If you're completely paralyzed, not talking or anything, you're tulpa would probably keep you company, but wouldn't be able to move your body. Whatever's stopping you would stop them.

[Wrath]

Well assuming the brain cells that composed the Tulpa survived while the brain cells that made the ego of the person died, and the pathways that allowed possession survived afterwards, yea sure. It's nigh impossible though.

 

If a person died and was brain damaged, so would the tulpa be damaged. I'm pretty sure something severe enough to cause permanent egodeath would also kill the tulpa.

[Couguhl]

that is kind of different i ma not asking directly about the tulpa/servitor staying and just hanging out but rather it moving the flesh body about.

 

Another problem with this is that it implies the tulpa has some sort of higher control of the body independent from the brain and it doesn't. A tulpa is entirely contained within the brain and as such, can only operate when the brain is functioning.

 

In other words, you could say a tulpa is like a software, and death is simply a hardware problem.

[Sands]

Oh boy, now that this was moved to meta, can't wait for someone to whine about how much SCIENCE is in this thread because this is in meta guise, stop it.

[Lacquer]

Sorry, but you die when your brain is dead. And tulpae lives inside your brain.

But, theoretically, if only your consciousnesses is dead (by shock, drugs, brain damage, hypnosis, alien brainsurgery, etc) tulpa can "replace " it.

 

Some people have theorized switching with the tulpa than committing ego death/ego suicide.

[Heaventhief]

Well assuming the brain cells that composed the Tulpa survived while the brain cells that made the ego of the person died, and the pathways that allowed possession survived afterwards, yea sure. It's nigh impossible though.

 

If a person died and was brain damaged, so would the tulpa be damaged. I'm pretty sure something severe enough to cause permanent egodeath would also kill the tulpa.

 

this is more like what i was thinking. the pathways that make a tulpas consciousness are there even after death so maybe if they were already in control at time of death it would persist. as for decay maybe because the body is still in use it would not decay.

[Lacquer]

brain cells that composed the Tulpa survived while the brain cells that made the ego of the person

 

Take a psychology class for once and don't start sprouting stuff you don't know about.

[waffles]

that is kind of different i ma not asking directly about the tulpa/servitor staying and just hanging out but rather it moving the flesh body about.

No. If it doesn't exist it can't do anything now can it?

 

Well assuming the brain cells that composed the Tulpa survived while the brain cells that made the ego of the person died, and the pathways that allowed possession survived afterwards, yea sure. It's nigh impossible though.

No. You can't discriminate between parts of the brain that carry the host and parts that carry the tulpa. And it seems unlikely that somehow, if such a distinction existed, the part comprising the host died while leaving the rest of the brain wholly intact.

 

this is more like what i was thinking. the pathways that make a tulpas consciousness are there even after death so maybe if they were already in control at time of death it would persist. as for decay maybe because the body is still in use it would not decay.

No. See, when we say "dead", what is usually meant is that the body stops functioning. That primarily extends to the nervous and circulatory systems. Without the nervous system, the tulpa cannot exist (because the brain is damaged) and cannot possess (no way of controlling limbs). Without the circulatory system the brain and the rest of the body will inevitably die due to oxygen starvation, and without the body there a) is no brain, rendering the first point here true and b) is nothing to possess.