Where are we going?

[Linkzelda]

Good luck on any further experimentation with that, Discord. And as for telling others, yeah, it's hard knowing how people will react, even if we end up creating simulations of "what ifs." I guess this kind of constrains our tulpa's capability of being able to freely express themselves to others, but it's just part of the reality they'll have to face in secret unfortunately.

[Argentum]

I'm afraid I have to admit that I have done things I shouldn't have. I went around telling everyone I knew about my tulpa experiences, because I was so excited, and still am. But one of the staff members of my group home informed me that the other staff were writing things like me hearing voices in my head and stuff. I am coming to realize that I was extremely naive, and I should really be careful who I tell about Twi.

 

 

First rule of fight club: don't talk about fight club. Won't chastise you though. Made the same mistake myself, but I regret it for different reasons.

 

 

As for making tulpamancy seem more credible, I am considering having my local university do some experiments once Twi is able to voice her opinion on the matter. Possibly something like scanning brain waves to see if there are truly two minds thinking, so we could possibly advance metaphysics, and make tulpamancy more credible.

 

 

Good luck with that. If that happens let me know. I want to see how messed up our heads are or if there is a miniature brain growing inside of "mine." It would be even better if there were some brain scans of people with DID so we could see the difference, if at all, between people with tuppers and those with DID.

 

 

Or maybe find a school which is willing to have me and Twi appear as special guests to answer questions about tulpamancy. Although I don't think any school would do it, but if I could, that would do a lot to get more people interested in tulpamancy.

 

 

Again, good luck with that. It would be hard to get a school to actually take you seriously, considering it is impossible to prove that something exists if only you can sense it.

 

 

Also, maybe come up with a different term other than tulpamancy, because it makes it sound like something occult, instead of something scientific. And people tend to shy away from anything that's considered occult.

 

 

Making tupperware sound more appealing to the masses by changing the name is only part of the issue. The other, more subtle part of the issue is the people that make up the community. I am talking about the My Little Pony fans. I think that your main issue would be getting people to take you seriously as soon as they find out your tupper is a unicorn (alicorn?), while I am assuming that you are a twentysomething. The problem would only get worse once they come over to the website and find the hordes of bronies alive and well here.

 

 

No I am not knocking MLP (I don't like the show myself though). I am pointing out the fact that "normal society" is opposed to the idea of adult males being interesting in a little girl's show. Most people would percieve this as something strange at best, and something to be disgusted with and shunned at worst. You all know that already.

 

 

Not that I want the hordes to ever come. I feel like a broken record when I say that I want the community to stay small. I don't want a huge multimillion strong crowd. I don't want "Me, Myself, and My Tulpa" tee shirts to appear at my local Wal-Mart. Most of all I don't want this place to be the subject of a news report painting us all as something to be ridiculed. I am pretty happy staying pretty small and obscure like this. That said, it is probably going to happen eventually (since when has society cared about the desires of one guy?), and if when it does I will quietly delete my account, and live my life with Seraph, in peace and anonymity.

[Discord]

 

 

First rule of fight club: don't talk about fight club. Won't chastise you though. Made the same mistake myself, but I regret it for different reasons.

 

 

 

 

Good luck with that. If that happens let me know. I want to see how messed up our heads are or if there is a miniature brain growing inside of "mine." It would be even better if there were some brain scans of people with DID so we could see the difference, if at all, between people with tuppers and those with DID.

 

 

 

 

Again, good luck with that. It would be hard to get a school to actually take you seriously, considering it is impossible to prove that something exists if only you can sense it.

 

 

 

 

Making tupperware sound more appealing to the masses by changing the name is only part of the issue. The other, more subtle part of the issue is the people that make up the community. I am talking about the My Little Pony fans. I think that your main issue would be getting people to take you seriously as soon as they find out your tupper is a unicorn (alicorn?), while I am assuming that you are a twentysomething. The problem would only get worse once they come over to the website and find the hordes of bronies alive and well here.

 

 

No I am not knocking MLP (I don't like the show myself though). I am pointing out the fact that "normal society" is opposed to the idea of adult males being interesting in a little girl's show. Most people would percieve this as something strange at best, and something to be disgusted with and shunned at worst. You all know that already.

 

 

Not that I want the hordes to ever come. I feel like a broken record when I say that I want the community to stay small. I don't want a huge multimillion strong crowd. I don't want "Me, Myself, and My Tulpa" tee shirts to appear at my local Wal-Mart. Most of all I don't want this place to be the subject of a news report painting us all as something to be ridiculed. I am pretty happy staying pretty small and obscure like this. That said, it is probably going to happen eventually (since when has society cared about the desires of one guy?), and if when it does I will quietly delete my account, and live my life with Seraph, in peace and anonymity.

 

I get you. Although, it would be nice if the scientific/medical community was more open minded towards this type of thing. But I agree, I don't want this to be a big thing. Tulpae aren't meant to be a fad, that's picked up one moment, tossed aside the next. They're meant to be guides and companions. It would be nice to maybe get a few more people, but I'm kinda happy with things the way they are now.

[Argentum]

Good luck on any further experimentation with that, Discord. And as for telling others, yeah, it's hard knowing how people will react, even if we end up creating simulations of "what ifs." I guess this kind of constrains our tulpa's capability of being able to freely express themselves to others, but it's just part of the reality they'll have to face in secret unfortunately.

 

 

Imagine a Tupper Rights movement. We all stand in Times Square, with "Plurality = Morality" and "Men Can Give Birth Too" picket signs. We fight for two seats on the bus: one for ourselves and one for our imposed tuppers. We give Twilight Sparkle and Pikachu the same rights as Mary Sue and John Smith.

 

 

Besides, if this is living in secret, it isn't that bad. We still have a decent and relatively tight knit community here, on the other boards, and the IRC.

[Linkzelda]

Eva: @Argentum, I understand where you’re getting at, but the part with the reality, and whether or not people can freely express they have tulpas is just so their companions don’t feel intimidated; they wouldn’t feel as if their existence isn’t of any value because of the compromises the host has to make to hide them away from society. At best, something like switching, or even possession can be a workaround for a tulpa to gain some experiential learning, and learning to adapt to that even though individuals won’t see them for who they really are, at least they’re getting the experiences.

 

I don’t really think Link intends to tell anyone in public that he has tulpas, and there’s no problem with people keeping it a secret as well; it’s really a matter of a person’s sustainability in a social environment that’s at risk. But for the part on tight knit community, it’s understandable that people will want that, especially if they create some long-lasting bonds with people here that can actually empathize with their struggles. This is why I often see individuals in this community making their own forums, and they don’t really bother to care if it’ll become as big as tulpa.info, simply because all that really matters is that they sustain the connection with those individuals they meet through social mediums, and that they don’t have individuals they may loathe or despise within their spectrum of said forums.

 

And I’ve seen through PMs, and other modes of contact, especially with tulpas, all they really want is a friend. They’re even honest that sometimes they feel that even though it’s a naïve way to find solace in their existence that they often see negatively at times, they admit it’s the best they can think of for the time being, and they just keep going. It’s something to admire at times for a thought-form to face the reality of their existence, but never undermining their ability to act and continue living.

 

TL;DR it here: In my experience (and that's all I can speak to) having tulpas much of your life is having a team to work with you. I get hate mail from people because my tulpas all have practical purpose. People think that I don't live my life because my tulpas are so independently active. Fact is' date=' I live my life much as any person does; but possibly with a bit more peace of mind then is common these days. That I allow my tulpas a life of their own should tell you - they aren't slaves. If anything in is like a family-run business, all working together for mutual benefit."[/quote']

 

Eva: I find the hate mail strangely ironic, it always seems people want to attribute that just because an individual is actually sustaining rapport with their companions that the host will suddenly want to absolve from their daily lifestyles. At least you’re facing the reality that after so many years, it would be something of a family-run business, and it’s just a natural part of what they would do when being so accustomed to whatever experiences you’ve had with them.

 

It kind of irks me that people feel insecure about what you’re doing. Sometimes I wonder if they’re insecure, or jealous of how you seem to freely live by without the constant struggles newcomers face. It’s almost as if those individuals only see this experience as just testing to see if it could be true to them, but when they have to learn how to assess their tulpas’ existence in real life, they reach a deadlock, and don’t know what to do anymore. It’s almost as if they want more time in their lives, so it doesn’t feel as if their tulpas are taking over, but I always thought that part of this journey is learning to accept that the host won’t have all the time in the world when it comes to sharing their existence with their tulpas. This is a very interesting, here I thought people would take the claims you, your host, and your family have made as an inspiration of what most people want to strive for: having a sense of belonging, rapport, and consistency with having someone to live for.

 

Maybe people are just bothered that this must be too good to be true, as if there has to be some constant struggle nagging at them at times, or something like that. Eh, guess people have different ways of conceptualizing what’s a pragmatic way to live with tulpas.