Kiahdaj April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 Well, anyone besides the tulpamancer and their tulpa, none. Not only does it continue to map out the personality of the tulpa, in the same way one might type out the personality traits on a trait sheet, or narrate said traits to the tulpa, alternatively a tulpamancer can "roleplay" as their tulpa. Now, I haven't done this personally, but a few have claimed that it can lead to an independant tulpa. To me, it logically makes some sense. After all, if you did it in that manner, and did in-fact want a tulpa, they would be raised through said roleplaying as a seperate entity in your head. You'd be creating an alternate personality through said roleplaying... going even further, I've read that writers, when thinking and acting as their character for an extended period of time, their character could turn into a tulpa. And finally, roleplaying in this manner just seems like a bunch of parroting out on the internet. And again, parroting can lead to a tulpa. That's the way my logic's working anyhow. If someone's clearly not planning to create a tulpa, or their roleplaying is just to troll or generally be annoying, that's when they should be burned at steak. Mmm... trollplayer steak. See, that makes sense. When I say "roleplayers" I tend to be referring to the people who know they don't have a tulpa. Or think that tulpas are like any other imaginary friend. What you described basically just sounds like Fede's method, which, if you want to try that, it's completely up to you. "If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."
Guest Anonymous April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 See, that makes sense. When I say "roleplayers" I tend to be referring to the people who know they don't have a tulpa. Or think that tulpas are like any other imaginary friend. What you described basically just sounds like Fede's method, which, if you want to try that, it's completely up to you. Not something I'd try personally, but I was just noting that it seemed to make sense and something worth trying. But yeah. We should go on a witch hunt and burn all the non-tulpalama roleplayers. With tar and acid. We'll save the fire for the uncreative trolls.
Trenton April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 If people are not serious about making a tulpa and just join to make a mess, was it worth it for them to even join?I might be new to this, a month in with my tulpa, but at least i try and i dont act like this is one big joke. Thing is i dont understand trolls, in the end they are just people who have problems and are probably jealous of someone having a tulpa so they make stuff up. I hope the best for this community.
Kiahdaj April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 Yeah, I know. I never got trolls, either. Basically, I see all trolls as people who have no life, and therefore nothing better to do with it than to act like an immature idiot. I would have hoped this community could really make it. Because after all, there are only so many tulpa communities out there. I would have loved to be a member of a tulpa community that is more mature. "If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."
waffles April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 I don't think that screening progress reports for blogginess is a good idea at all. In truth, PR is the largest on-topic subforum on the site, and it probably keeps a sizeable portion of the community here. Everyone has their own little thread there and they can enjoy themselves. Why do you think it's there? It says in the description "Your own personal blog space", does it not? It's already a valuable resource for gauging the effectiveness of methods, overall trends in creation and so on, far better than any survey, because it is so vast and constantly updated. There are 550 people keeping a log of their progress for all to see, and - regardless of the quality of the posts - that's incredibly valuable from a research perspective. Start being stricter about what gets posted and you're driving people away from it. Even if you say "only post tulpa stuff", many people who previously posted both unrelated and related content would probably stop posting altogether. Sifting through unrelated material to find useful information is easy, but finding information that isn't there is very difficult. A far greater problem, I think, is unprofessionalism. A blog in the corner is bearable; it's out of sight. However: babyluv tulpalamas Say waaah? I'm not picking on you, Moon Shooter, but you provide a perfect example of what I mean. This subforum (general discussion) and, I believe, all subforums under the category "Tulpae" are serious business. It's not 'no fun' but this is just being immature and, basically, shitposting, and consequently it casts everyone in a bad light, as well as casting a shadow over serious discussion. Same thing happens with attention-whoring posts anywhere other than your own progress report, and so on. The truth is that it has never been wholly serious, but I think it's been slipping recently. The end point here is that no serious discussion occurs on the forum. A private super serious board? Maybe, but there aren't enough super serious people to populate it, because many will have either left beforehand, given up on being serious, or already discussed much of what there is to discuss. So I suppose most valuable discussion would end up in private correspondence, or otherwise not recorded and publicly available. This place wouldn't become a "festering shitpool" as some have said, I think, but trivial. Roleplaying contributes to that, certainly, but the solution to that is probably to just treat every surprising event with ambivalence, which probably isn't happening. The idea is not to identify and remove, because that's error-prone; rather, if roleplayers want attention then attention they should not get. That discourages it fundamentally, but again I doubt that enough people would act that way.
Trenton April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 This community can make it if people who are truly devoted to this community and tulpae, stay and keep up the good work. As for how many people are truly devoted, can we really know for sure how many are left?
Guest Anonymous April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 If anything waffles, I apreciate the attention, and see where you're comming from... from both experiance and prior understanding. Although I will defend myself in saying tulpalamas is what I've gotten used to calling them, until someone comes up with some "official" term (from what I've heard, it does exist as a legitamate plural). But again, everything else you do have a point on.
Guest Anonymous April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 If anything waffles, I apreciate the attention, and see where you're comming from... from both experiance and prior understanding. Although I will defend myself in saying tulpalamas is what I've gotten used to calling them, until someone comes up with some "official" term (from what I've heard, it does exist as a legitamate plural). But again, everything else you do have a point on. From a quick google search you appear to be the only person on the whole surface web who used that term, actually. Maybe you misread the tibetan plurals I posted on that pluralisation topic?
Sands April 24, 2013 April 24, 2013 This community can make it if people who are truly devoted to this community and tulpae, stay and keep up the good work. As for how many people are truly devoted, can we really know for sure how many are left? A lot have left. My posts are being moderated and I am being threatened with a ban. I will be the next one to be banned, permanently most likely. Impossible to keep up the good work. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
DarthNikolai April 24, 2013 Author April 24, 2013 1. It often keeps our community from being taken seriously, as a whole. Even more so than if all of us were being serious. 2. When you have roleplayers saying that they have fully vocal tulpas in a couple of weeks, it leaves many serious members discouraged, because they're making such slow progress, in comparison. 3. When there are so many roleplayers, it can be hard to weed through them. It gets to the point where people who aren't roleplayers are being called out for being one, because they did or said something similar to what roleplayers have said in the past. I know what you mean. Roleplaying isn't going to go away, and there's no use fighting it. Yes it does harm, but it also helps. Personally, Roleplaying should be treated by the "don't ask, don't tell" rule. As in, no one accuses of roleplaying, and no one says they're roleplaying... even if they are. Someone being ridiculous, then something should be done about them. It's those extreme cases of roleplaying that really make us look bad. Ones just acting out how their tulpa would act might as well be mapping out their tulpa's personality, or actively parroting. Again, I'm not saying it's a good thing, but rather not to be so quick to breaking roleplaying's shit. It can be useful... but it's also something that needs to be controled so that it doesn't get out of hand. I agree with the both of you, it isn't going away, but it does cause substantial harm. I think mods/admins should be on the lookout for these extremist roleplayers. I understand just about anything is possible when it comes to tulpas, but come on. Name: Lilith Form: Human (see profile pic) Age: 19 (Created Dec. 29th 2012) Working on: Imposition
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