Are tulpa real. Honestly.

[Zer0.iNSaNiTY]

Lol XD yeah, what Shui said. Im saying if i see a really long post, whether someone put tl;dr after it or not (though usually if it is there it feels like it carries more weight, so important it had to get called out, ya know?), i usually think "dude, that person must really know what they’re talking about o.O", so i really dont think someone putting tl;dr is a bad thing ^^; it just kinda says to me "yo, this post is long, but it’s got good info, so read it if you want to". And since i have a really bad attention span, ill usually scan it as much as i can instead of reading every word. Although usually i dont actually type tl;dr XD its kinda a pain for me to type with the semi colon and stuff lol.

[Couguhl]

^ That is understandable.

And I completely agree with you, Linkzelda. The fact that passages are entirely ignored solely for the reason that they are long never ceases to bother me.

I can understand in some scenarios where conciseness is valued and preferred, but it's a bit condescending. Almost like, "not only am I ignoring your opinion because it isn't worth the effort of reading, but I will type four or five characters indicating such."

[Shui]

The tl;dr attitude has annoyed me as well, since I tend to be quite verbose. But it's a matter of knowing your audience. As an example, for writers of comics, it's considered bad practice to put more than thirty words in any speech balloon. On the other hand, 50,000 words is short to a novelist. It's a matter of expectation. I enjoy both novels and comics, but when I sit down to read a comic, 200 words in one panel tries my patience; whereas when I sit down to read a novel, 50,000 words is over far too quickly.

 

People expect forum posts to be short, so if you want to get your point across to most people, a short post is best.

 

(Nearly 500 words were removed from this post.)

 

Also, we've rather strayed off-topic, haven't we?

[Zer0.iNSaNiTY]

XD We have, just one more little thing; I'm not sure how many people learned this in school, but the topic sentence of a paragraph is usually the first or last sentence. So if you absolutely don't wanna read giant passages, or if you have an attention span equal to mine, read the first or last sentence (I recommend first cuz it's easier to locate lol) of the paragraph and judge how important it is. Heck, sometimes you don't even need to finish the sentence, just read the first line. If you think it's important and worth your time, then read the paragraph. If not, move on. Like this, you'll get in-depth information on the things you care about/are looking for, but you also get the general idea for the parts you don't care as much about/aren't really looking for :P Or speed read if you can lol.

 

Okai, back on topic nao.

[historical]

Pardon me, Mater, I'm off to play the grand piano

 

Pretty much my views on anything requiring conscious effort to understand, only to reach the conclusion that the 'anything' discussed is pointless.

[Twine]

Welp, that was an interesting turn of events but rest assured that I read all of you posts and appreciate the replies. I think the only current way to confirm tulpa to myself is by trying it unfortunately.

[Angus and Alexis]

To OP.

 

Short answer: Yes, tulpae are real, i have experienced Alexis being sentient, i have no doubt.

 

Long answer: Cant be bothered writing one.

[Anduin]

I don't have a tulpa yet, so I did not vote. However, as far as I'm concerned if a tulpa appears to have independent thought, then it is conscious until proven otherwise.

 

I think that many people who question whether their tulpa are really conscious do so because they don't understand the mechanism that would allow them to create a conscious being. If you believe that consciousness is reducible to mere brain processes then it could be easy to simply view the tulpa as a hallucination.

 

I don't share this view. I believe that consciousness is greater than the brain and survives the death of the brain. I have no problem with the idea that people can create true conscious entities.

[Kiahdaj]

Moved to General Discussion.

[Guest Anonymous]

Not sure if you'll accept a tulpa's opinion, but how "real" your tulpa seems to be all depends on you. I'm 9 months old, can possess and have arguments with my host several times a day. Our likes and dislikes vary a lot, though it's not like we disagree on everything, there is a significant difference. He has heard my imposed voice on occasion, and I've been with him and talking to him for nearly a year, and he still doesn't fully believe I'm real, even as I'm typing this right now.

 

So, questioning whether your tulpa is real or not is the wrong approach. If you ask "Are tulpas real?", the most legitimate answer you'll be able to get is "I don't know, probably?", whereas if you asked "Do tulpas appear to be someone other than you?", I can guarantee you the majority of answers will be "yes". "Real" is badly defined in this context and there's no good use for it. All you need to know, is that your tulpa will eventually seem very real to you, and since nobody else can perceive them the way you can, that's all that is necessary.

 

Also, asking if tulpas are real on a tulpa forum is like asking if God is real in a church. The answers you receive are a given.

 

The fact that passages are entirely ignored solely for the reason that they are long never ceases to bother me.

 

Except not everybody has the attention span or interest to read long passages. It's not an unnatural reaction to assume that something that comes in bulk (i.e. words) is of bad quality, purely because of the large amount of it, and I doubt Linkzelda's posts couldn't convey the exact same message using about a tenth of the amount of words he uses on average.