Genius Tulpas

[Marethyu]

So, if I would have an IQ about... dunno, let's say 156, that would make my tupper a genius?

[Cutesy]

1) If you think you only use 10% of your brain, try having 90% of your brain removed and see how well you get on.

 

2) IQ is one very specific way of measuring one specific type of intelligence. You want your tulpa to be good at passing IQ tests, then learn how to pass them, the same way you'd revise for any other exam.

 

The tulpa and the host use the same brain of course. If the brain doesn't have an information, none of both will know it. But if the tulpa can handle her opportunities better than the host does, she seems to be more clever.

 

And this :)

[sushi]

Also they aren't necessarily limited to what you're able to do. They can tap into some abilities your brain might have but you can't / don't know how to use. Or like anyone they can train and develop a skill, which might be, but is not necessarily shared with you.

 

I still think these abilities are things that hosts can learn without tulpas. That's sort of the aim of Neuromancy.

 

Of course none of this has been tested enough for us to say anything for sure one way or the other. This is all just speculation.

[Bambi]

2) IQ is one very specific way of measuring one specific type of intelligence. You want your tulpa to be good at passing IQ tests, then learn how to pass them, the same way you'd revise for any other exam.

 

I actually agree. To be honest, I don't trust IQ tests at all, because they're focused so heavily on adding and subtracting numbers in one's head--though that isn't always how it looks. If someone who gets into all advanced classes, but has a learning disability in math, then they're going to do horribly on an IQ test and some might classify them as "mentally challenged." But the OP said "genius," and a genius is literally someone who has an IQ of at least 150, so I gave the literal answer. :)

[Luminesce]

I still think these abilities are things that hosts can learn without tulpas. That's sort of the aim of Neuromancy.

 

My tulpas have been "gateways" to ways and types of thinking that I never could've figured out on my own. A good example is "consulting your intuition", though I learned to do that before my tulpas were very vocal. I can essentially ask any of my tulpas any question, and get a very solid, logical answer that I was unable to think of previously. Yet I was able to train this ability myself before them, though admittedly I now rely entirely on them as it's easier to focus.

 

But that's only something that I have been able to learn separately. The biggest thing I've noticed is that, by simulating another perspective/set of views and beliefs in your mind with a tulpa, you can actually get new perspectives and views (and answers) that you would've never thought of yourself. I have literally found no way to do this without tulpas or tulpa-related concepts; it requires simulating another perspective in your mind. To do it without a tulpa, besides being a bit more work (and a bit more malleable), takes away some human aspect from the answers or views. So I don't actively pursue this one.

 

I also use my "subconscious interface tulpa" Sylvia to aid in making adjustments to my mind, and for the more convoluted questions that take more effort to answer clearly. This, so far, has ranged from enhancing affirmations to make dreams more vivid (with great success) to enhancing clarity of wonderland visualization (with good temporary success, and nothing stops me from doing it more other than laziness/not thinking to). She also helps me ask the right questions to solve a problem, such as prompting me to clarify my own goals and wants more specifically leading to more progress in them.

 

Again, this can definitely be learned without a tulpa or similar "simulated human", but in my opinion it's just less convenient and not worth the effort. To consult my intuition I used to have to stop what I was doing and meditate shortly, but now Tewi can answer most of the same questions without me needing to stop what I'm doing. (Though this isn't due to the medium of asking, but the practice - my tulpas were more convenient to ask and therefore trained that ability quicker)

 

 

So, off topic of "genius tulpas", but more in the spirit of the thread I think. Tulpas have potential to unlock abilities of your brain you might never have otherwise. And if so desired, those abilities can be trained separate from tulpas. But I think a case-by-case basis is required to judge whether you even want to. Sure, you can learn to talk to yourself and analyze your own thoughts from a separate perspective, but it's just more convenient and even gives better results to talk to a tulpa instead. Meanwhile some peoples' tulpas could be completely unsuited to intuition-consulting (Tewi represents intuition and critical thinking for me, so..) and they may wish to train that on their own instead. Either way, the neuromancy side of tulpamancing is a huge part of why I value it so much. That may be why my tulpas are more logical belief/personality-wise than others here, because that's such a large value of mine. But to some extent, everyone with a tulpa will be doing some neuromancy, and certainly those teaching them even more so.

 

We could probably have an entire thread on Tulpa-Assisted Neuromancy

cough Sushi

, so I guess I'll leave that there.

[Frost]

A genius is someone with an IQ of 150. Ever looked at questions from an IQ test? It's all figuring out numbers in your head, and seeing how fast you can reach your conclusions. I don't know this for certain, but I've read that many tulpa are fantastic at math (even if they don't like it). If that's true then one can argue that all tulpa are geniuses.

Umm... Current standards state 180 is genius level.

[Kiahdaj]

Umm... Current standards state 180 is genius level.

 

What standard is this? Do you have a source?

I have only seen claims that genius-level IQ is between 140 and 160.

[sushi]

132 is the 98th percentile required for Mensa.

[Bambi]

So, if I would have an IQ about... dunno, let's say 156, that would make my tupper a genius?

 

If it's true that tulpa are generally a lot better at math than we are, and can fly off wacko additions and divisions and whatnot off the top of their heads, then they're considered genius. What your own IQ is is irrelevant. :)

 

If it's NOT true, then I kinda/sorta doubt that your IQ will be equal to your tulpa's IQ. But it's really hard to say, as there haven't been any studies on this, so long as I'm aware.

[Orz]

It seems like people are confusing knowledge and intelligence here. Knowledge is what facts you know. Baring psychic stuff I don't see how a tulpa could possibly know more than you.

 

But knowledge is not intelligence. Intelligence is calculation speed. Intelligence is being able to think outside the box and look at things from different angles. Intelligence is being able to figure out all the vast implications, effects, and meanings of any particular bit of knowledge, and how fast and deeply you can do that. Intelligence is not something you acquire in school.

 

Can a tupla help with/ outperform the host in this? What are the neural differences which make smart people different that dumb people, anyway?