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Redirection Technique
In the beginning, remembering to keep my tulpa in mind was a challenge, and so I added this to my daily exercise: whenever I picked up my cellphone, I made a mental effort to check in with my tulpa.  I suppose, generally, any habitual behavior can be utilized, but I specifically focused on my own behavior of handling my cellphone, checking for texts, emails, or just wanting to distract myself with social media or games, especially when there was no apparent need to, IE phone calls. Whenever I felt compelled to check in with the phone, I instead interrupted the urgency by going in and spending a moment with Loxy. I suspect it was effective for me because I was channeling energy that might have been otherwise spent engaging cellphone back into the system, and also because of the frequency I pick up the cellphone.

So, how this looks in practice. 1: whenever I became mindful of the urge to pick up my phone, I would take that as an opportunity to 'call' Loxy, or otherwise check in with Wonderland, which usually resulted with meeting up with Loxy, and we would have anything from either a simple greeting, to a full length conversation. 2: missing the internal cue to pick up the phone, but 'now' mindful that I have picked up the phone without specific purpose, I would then take the opportunity to check in with Loxy. Sometimes I pretended I had picked up the phone because she was calling me, trying to make that inner compulsion a signal to connect. 3; on the back of the cellphone I put the tulpa symbol, and a symbol for Loxy, so that if I even looked in the direction of the phone, I had a reminder of my intentions to practice connecting.

Using the cellphone increased my overall Forcing time, even if was in smaller chunks through out the day. Not intended to be a substitution for quality, longer sessions, but a way of incorporating practice with daily routine and habits.
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06-13-2017, 02:03 PM
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RE: substitution or sublimation technique
Step one, remove formatting.

Step two, reduce word count of the introduction.

Step three, add a header after the introduction and at the start of the main content, maybe? Alternately, isolate the introduction from the rest of the text. Or just delete the preamble.

Is substitution or sublimation really a good name for this technique? I haven't read many tips, but I don't remember seeing this one. Seems like a logical extension of that one where you use a lock screen or wallpaper as the image of your tulpa to remind you of them.

Not obvious at all. Why does the cellphone's symbolic value in any way improve this technique.

It seems ironic... Word salad padding.

Relevance of this bit of social commentary to why the technique works?

"Yes, I tend to ascribe to a metathought philosophy"... The relevance of this tangent to the method is going to be impossible to prove at this point. Why is it in a tip for new users?

If you really want to keep this stuff, you should hide it in a hidden section labelled commentary. It is currently incorrect to call it an exploration of "why it works".

Step five: You should give some advice to your users about how to get into this habit of thinking about your tulpa every time they reach for the phone to complete the guide/tip.

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06-13-2017, 03:33 PM
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RE: substitution or sublimation technique
(06-13-2017, 02:03 PM)solarchariot Wrote: I probably don’t need this preamble, as most folks here offer supportive insight or criticism.
Why did you include it, then? A great deal of your whole first paragraph is an unnecessary appeal to the community, I'd say. When the intro is longer than the actual "guide" portion, something is surely amiss.

(06-13-2017, 02:03 PM)solarchariot Wrote: Should it be new and worthy of consideration, I would like help giving the technique a name.
What is meant by this? And, again, does it really need to be included?

(06-13-2017, 02:03 PM)solarchariot Wrote: The technique is basically substitution or sublimation. It is very straight forward. Whenever I was compelled to reach for my cellphone, to check for txt or email or social media or anything really, I would interrupt my reach and extend my thoughts towards my tulpa. And that’s it. That simple.
From this, I can infer that "substitution" probably means "substituting checking your phone for interacting with one's tulpa." But what is meant by sublimation? And how is it important?

(06-13-2017, 02:03 PM)solarchariot Wrote: When you consider how many times you pick up your cellphone, sometimes even unconsciously without true need or purpose, giving five minutes back to your system in increments turns out to be significant.

Why it works is probably obvious. From a psychological point of view, the cellphone can be interpreted as a symbolic need to connect. It seems ironic, and is probably a well-established social fact, that as technology for connecting with others has increased, we (society) have experienced a simultaneous increase in isolation and depression. Reaching for cell phone is on the verge of being compulsive.
This raises some interesting questions.

Since checking one's phone compulsively is so profoundly and so deeply embedded in everybody's subconscious, and since you want to talk in terms of psychology, what mechanism is there that will reward me for interacting with my tulpas rather than checking my phone? And, reversely, if I'm so stuck on checking my phone all the time, shouldn't there be some negative consequence for the occasion when I do check my phone before interacting with my tulpas?

I do not dislike the premise of your guide. In fact, you are touching upon something I think can be profoundly useful to some. However, I think you should seek a greater level of generality: In aiming to help the community (as you so thoroughly pointed out was your intent in the massive opening paragraph), it would seem to make more sense to go back and examine your methods to remove anything you decided on including in your guide arbitrarily, with the ultimate goal of making your guide useful to more people. Arbitrary inclusions hinder generality. For instance, is one to suppose that this only works with cellular phones? What about people who have different, yet similarly deeply-embedded psychological compulsions, such is sitting in front of a computer all day, or playing video games to procrastinate from other tasks, or biting one's nails? Does your (poorly described) method work with those things as well? Why or why not? Why stop there? Why not make a whole new guide on recognizing psychological compulsions of any sort and manipulating them to productivity concerning your tulpas? The balance on what you should include in your guide is ultimately not mine to find, but I feel pretty darn confident in saying that your guide is way too specific to (a poorly-construed, tangential aspect of) one example where it could be expanded to include so much more. And I'd say you shouldn't have reservations about expanding your methodology, again, since the how-to part of it is only six sentences long.

(06-13-2017, 02:03 PM)solarchariot Wrote: We are frequently disenfranchised from our society, our families, from nature, and even from spirit. Yes, I tend to ascribe to a metathought philosophy over a psychthought, even though I live and work in a predominantly psychthought environment.  (Nycto’s, reddit user and author of Tulpa metaphysical guide, introduce me to the words metathought and psychthough, and I decided I like them, and Nicto’s, and his irreverent banter and appropriate use of profanity.) Even if we don’t agree with the theory of why, there is a real fact that we too frequently reach for the cellphone, wanting to connect with something other than self, and so I used that energy, that desire to connect, to actually connect with something more profound than Pokemon Go.
Your social commentaries and thoughts on the problems of society are of tertiary importance and do not belong in a tulpa guide.

(06-13-2017, 02:03 PM)solarchariot Wrote: I still play Pokemon Go, and am certainly not saying cellphones are evil and we need to throw them away. (I worked way too hard to catch my pokemon, walked some miles and thrown a few balls, and not surrendering that willingly. (My avatar is named after my first tulpa.)) I wouldn’t suggest throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but I thoroughly checked, there’s no baby in that bath! It’s just water. And some soap.
This has nothing to do with anything you've previously discussed and frankly sounds like babbling.

For some closing thoughts, let's examine the style of your post. I can't actually fault you for using the forums to compose and not using something like Google Docs, whereas some of the popular guides of the past did. I can fault you for using obscure BBCode formatting that is hard to read and outright unwarranted. And you also didn't even capitalize anything in the thread title!



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06-13-2017, 04:17 PM
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RE: substitution or sublimation technique
So, in correcting the issues, do I simply edit the original post and let the discourse continue?
06-13-2017, 05:06 PM
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RE: substitution or sublimation technique
Did you mean "subliminal"? Title needs proper capitalization as well. "Subliminal Forcing Technique" would work.

First paragraph is basically you trying to sell your technique/guide. Unnecessary: your technique should speak for itself. Remove it or change it to a short summary of what the technique actually does.

Quote:for txt or email
>for a text or email

Quote:towards my tulpa. And that's it.
>towards my tulpa: that's it.

Quote:cellphone
>cell phone

Five minutes seems to be an unnecessarily high amount of forcing time for substitution for something that only takes a few seconds.

Your entire last paragraph comes off as rambling, off-topic, and serves no purpose.

I say rewrite the entire thing with a step-by-step instruction of how to accomplish substituting the urge to check your phone with talking to your tulpa. Add that this can be used for other urges as well, so it can be applicable to more scenarios. This time, use proper formatting. 

As your guide is it's likely not getting approved.

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RE: substitution or sublimation technique
Yes. Edit the original post to fix the errors. Move your preamble to a later post if you want to tell your reviewers about it.

Also, while I'm posting, Asmask, also edit your post to remove the formatting problems you inherited from quoting the original post.

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RE: Substitution Technique
If you don't know how it would work with a physical addiction like smoking, why bring it up? I've struggled with quitting smoking for a couple years now and it chapped my ass a little to have someone who has no idea imply that tulpatime alone can mitigate the craving.

This isn't really a technique but more or less something that everyone who is making a tulpa should already be aware of. If you do things other than force when you could be forcing, of course it stands to reason that you're not going to see progress and are going to be more engaged with those other activities.

A little common sense goes a long way, I don't think this needs to be a guide.

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RE: Substitution Technique
(06-13-2017, 10:32 PM)Stevie Wrote: If you don't know how it would work with a physical addiction like smoking, why bring it up? I've struggled with quitting smoking for a couple years now and it chapped my ass a little to have someone who has no idea imply that tulpatime alone can mitigate the craving.

This isn't really a technique but more or less something that everyone who is making a tulpa should already be aware of. If you do things other than force when you could be forcing, of course it stands to reason that you're not going to see progress and are going to be more engaged with those other activities.

A little common sense goes a long way, I don't think this needs to be a guide.
I bring it up because I am interested in knowing if it does help with cravings. I consider my cellphone usage a craving, as opposed to strictly utilitarian. I am sensitive to smoking as an issue, because my father 49 years of smoking dying of COPD wont give up his three packs a day, and I have offered hypnosis for people who want to diminish smoking, but I can't really recommend tulpa work to family or clients, and I doubt there ever going to be a serious study on the matter, but I thought mentioning it might bring up a discussion, as someone here might be able to report yeah, my tulpa helped diminished the craving, or my craving rechanneled into helped in the formation.

I am open to this not being a guide, or even a tip. I was thinking about what was helpful for me, and wanted to share.
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RE: Substitution Technique
Approved. This is perfect for tips and tricks.

Quote:I don't smoke, so I don't know if the compulsion to smoke might also work with this, but I imagine it might, as it seems likely that as you become aware of the need to smoke due to increased pressure, one might take a moment to go; "oh, it's time to visit with tulpa/wonderland/system." I am certainly not suggesting this to stop smoking or stop using cellphone, but merely to delay in favor of the tulpa creating goal. I imagine the pressure to engage in any behavior might be substituted in this fashion.
Don't like this part. If you don't smoke, you don't have anything valuable to tell us about the experience. Particularly don't go theorising about it. Mention that it could work for other things. But most importantly, don't mention any personal details about yourself, like the fact you don't smoke. Also, we don't need to know what you are not telling us to do.

You should still add help for users who can't remember to think about their tulpas when they try this exercise.

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RE: Substitution Technique
(06-14-2017, 06:44 PM)tulpa001 Wrote: Approved. This is perfect for tips and tricks.

Don't like this part. If you don't smoke, you don't have anything valuable to tell us about the experience. Particularly don't go theorising about it. Mention that it could work for other things. But most importantly, don't mention any personal details about yourself, like the fact you don't smoke. Also, we don't need to know what you are not telling us to do.

You should still add help for users who can't remember to think about their tulpas when they try this exercise.

I am finding the process of submission a bit frustrating, and am ready to withdraw the proposal. Maybe the connection I see between my suggestion and how it may be in general useful with any compulsive behavior too disparate, but I see a connection... I can certainly see that compulsive behaviors can be ranked, and addictions can change the formula, but the strategy I was using was rechanneling my own compulsive behaviors, and believing it helpful, seems like broadly assuming potential benefit for any compulsion might be logical. The fact that I shared I don't smoke suggests I don't want to make an assumption, but that I am further exploring potential validity. this whole endeavor of creating a tulpa and why it's working for me, why it works for anyone, seems to be theorizing and conjecture. I have read lots of psychological and metaphysical explanation, but isn't that, too, theorizing?

OMG, wow. I accept the challenge and will continue improve the clarity of transmitting intelligible, but less speculative, information.
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