Psychedelics and Tulpas

[hets]

Have the effects of psychedelic substances ever been discussed thoroughly enough in connection with tulpas?

 

I have but one interesting piece of information to present. The correlations to the tulpa phenomenon cannot be denied.

 

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Subconscious_communication

 

So it would appear that some psychedelics can create tulpas pretty much instantaneously, obviously disappearing once the drug wears off.

 

So, what do we make of this? Just hallucinations? Or are these entities cognates to tulpas?

[Guest Anonymous]

Tulpas have consistency. Like, tulpas are thoughtforms that are consistent, a basis in your mind, just that presence in consistency/at all times. Of course drugs can create hallucinations. I think that there's a wide difference between 'tulpa' and 'tulpa' when it comes to the level of sentience and autonomy. Those are thoughtforms that only really can operate under the influence of 'psychedelics'.

 

Cognates to tulpas? Come on. We're beings that are, well, sentient, autonomous, think at all times (or so in my case), those are just thoughtforms that are there when you're high, that's all.

[Bin]

You seem to think tulpas are somehow special from hallucinations. Tulpas are not that special in the grand scheme of things, you could say any living thing in a dream is a tulpa, really. Dreams, tulpas, being in a suggestive state, either though hypnosis, sleeping, or psychedelics, they're all just different ways to make the mind more open. That is, allowing more unrefined, unconscious thoughts to become conscious thoughts. Due to many various mechanisms that are in place, the average, conscious human being blocks out a lot of unconscious thoughts. These thoughts can be anything, from more than one opinion about something, to different ways of looking at things, to simple trivial thoughts that have no meaning. When we dream, when we take psychedelic drugs, or when our tulpas are thinking, we're allowing those unused thoughts to become conscious to us when they otherwise wouldn't. This is why when an artist or inventor either takes drugs or dreams, they think of things they wouldn't have while awake and sober, they're allowing their most primitive thoughts to become conscious to them. And this is, at least in my opinion, how tulpas can have thoughts that are separate from ours, they're just fishing for thoughts that we would have otherwise thrown out unconsciously.

 

I don't know what you call it, maybe the Ego, maybe you call it a psyche, but, who you are, that is, not your brain, but the personality that makes you up, is constantly organizing and defending itself. It's constantly looking for very specific thoughts from the unconscious pool of thoughts, and picking out very specific, very discriminated thoughts, and ignoring all else. This is why you aren't a babbling mess of Id, because the Ego is taking care of your personality (or the Ego is the personality, I don't know Freud's theories too well). So, of course, that means there are a lot of left-over thoughts in the back of your head, and anything else in your mind can take advantage of it.

 

Really, how I differentiate a tulpa from any ol' hallucination is, I just see them as a very special hallucination that we allow to become independent, we actively support and motivate them until their personality becomes as sophisticated as ours. Until they develop their own Ego, if you will. I'm not saying they actually become or develop their own Ego, just, it's one way to put it, is all. So, if all we are is the Ego, if that's the only thing that separates our conscious thoughts from our chaotic, unconscious thoughts, then we just allow another Ego, that is, another "list of likes, dislikes, and reactions" to develop beside ours. I think this is how authors make tulpas out of characters so easily, because, well, it's the exact same process. You just make another personality in your head. Only, the tulpa can actually think for itself with your unconscious thoughts. Making that happen is the hard part, that's why it takes a more than a minute to make one for most people.

 

These are all just my theories anyway. Not to be taken without a grain assault.