What's Going On?

[Vos]

There are plenty of threads in General Discussion that have a low number of replies, and there's nothing stopping anyone from posting in those as long as they have something relevant to add. That's not to say that you should go around posting everywhere until your fingers fall off, but if you feel like you can contribute, feel free to do so. There's that unwritten rule of the internet about necroposting, but I don't think that people care about it too much on here unless it's someone expecting a response from an account that's long dead.

[Guest Anonymous]

@AGGuy

 

One thing I learned in my time away is that there is tremendous variation in experience when it comes to to tulpamancy and plurality in general. I think it makes the conversations more vibrant and interesting to talk about those personal experiences and differences rather than shy away from them.

 

I think there is a core to tulpamancy practice yes. There is sort of a "standard model" of what to expect in general if you follow the tulpamancy creation guides. But that doesn't mean our discussion should stop there! It probably is helpful to make it clear that your experience is different (as is mine), so it won't be confusing to someone who is very new. But for extablished members, gods, we wanna read about you!

 

There are plenty of threads in General Discussion that have a low number of replies, and there's nothing stopping anyone from posting in those as long as they have something relevant to add. That's not to say that you should go around posting everywhere until your fingers fall off, but if you feel like you can contribute, feel free to do so. There's that unwritten rule of the internet about necroposting, but I don't think that people care about it too much on here unless it's someone expecting a response from an account that's long dead.

 

There is an art to necroposting I think. For a very old thread, making a new one that is very similar, with a link to the old one, brings fresh perspective and experience to an old discussion without all the clutter from members who left long ago. I was the champion of necroposting like that!

[Guest Anonymous]

Well, you're making valid points.

 

But aside from what I said, there was a lot going wrong with the forums recently, and I sort of lost the willingness and motivation to invest any great amounts of energy into it - and I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who can say this exact same thing for themselves.

I went from posting on an almost daily basis to only posting every now and then - and Rina pretty much left the site entirely, even. (She says she "might" return someday, but eh, I'm not too sure about that.)

Sure, a lot of that was all the drama people like Anderson and... well, you caused, but it was more than just that.

But I won't go into great detail about these problems here, that's not what this is about.

 

Recent private conversations with some forum members did make me think a bit, though.

And I do think tulpa.info still has the potential to be a truly great website, and I do feel it would be a shame to simply put a place that did so much for us in our early times, when we were confused and needed advice, behind me like that.

 

So I'm currently sort of reconsidering my position as far as my activity on this site goes, and how much energy and time I'm willing to invest.

Not entirely sure yet, though.

 

 

Greets,

AG

[Guest Anonymous]

I can tell you that the recent past has completely altered our perspective and approach. It literally was a process all the way up until last night. A lot of people on Tulpa.io and a chatroom were involved. Things are going to be better for my part. I can't prove it yet, that is going to take time. But I will prove it.

 

I hope that you and Rina stay. Anderson/Iscariot is in the past. His influence to me was ultimately very positive. We raged (and ranted on deviantart and tulpa.io, then deleted the rants). But we were forced to do some soul searching. I am grateful to the mods for sticking to their guns and enforcing the self ban. I am especially grateful to Vosaiu and Waffles for bearing our intrusive need for "couch time" talks in PMs. They may not see it this way, but it was important and really helped me. Even their brutal honestly and frankness, especially that.

 

If it helps, I want you to stay and be active.

[Tewi]

I want you to look at the reply count of discussion threads.

 

1, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 10, 11, 12, 18, 22, 26, 39 posts. There are a few that should definitely be posted in some more, but the rest either were basically discussed as far as need be, or have a decent amount of replies in the first place. Threads like "Tulpas, what are your thoughts on physical bodies?" will continue to gather replies as new members find the thread, while threads like "Pronouns: Single or Plural?" tend to die down once a decent spread of answers is given. Not to mention, a single member can only contribute so much to such threads. I certainly couldn't reply to either of those examples more than once. They require more people posting, which is basically what this thread was about I suppose.

 

The reason threads need to be recreated or revived, instead of "just being replied to more", is that the people who will later reply to those threads were either not active or not even here on the forum yet. Occasionally an old thread is revived by a new poster, but it's far less common than members posting in "new" threads. New referring to activity in, not subject matter of.

 

So, unless you feel like digging through all the old threads yourself and bumping them, it's a lot more streamlined to simply make the threads again. A new thread with no replies is much more attractive to post in than one with 26 replies.. or 26 pages.. that is bumped from the past. Just based on our experience here. And to be honest, looking at threads from 2013, 2014 and 2015/16 on similar subject matters makes apparent one good reason to keep doing this. This community changes a lot over time. The same thread on tulpa romance remade over three years is much more informative than a single megathread where you would have to skip many pages (into the middle, towards the end, etc.) to see those dated posts. No one's going to do that. But I can easily go find an old thread on tulpa romance from ~2012 and see how different peoples' thought processes were back then. And I think you see the benefit in that, Waffles?

 

 

Anyways, we discuss what we can as much as we can, but there's only so much to say before we're either out of things to post or people are tired of hearing from us. This thread was made because at the time there was this sense of established members sitting idly waiting for activity, and then contributing to discussion as soon as a new thread came up, but then going back to idleness again. We're still capable of making relevant and interesting threads, maybe moreso than new users, so the mindset that you can't do anything until someone else starts something is a harmful one to the forum, then and now.

[solarchariot]

As one of the 'newbies' and having posted a new thread or two, I will admit to some hesitancy in adding to some of the threads, even when I found them particularly interesting, due to the last posts having been made so long ago. The older the last post,the less likely I feel inclined to add to the thread, because, well, it feels like that conversation ended and whether there is more to add on it or not, it's lost its luster and then there's the possibility that the original participants may not even be here. Threads due seem to have their own life time, and if they're particularly tedious or have found no resolution through consensus, or perhaps too much consensus, they just feel resolved. This may also explain why sometimes we 'newbies' revive some questions, because even though we might know of an existing thread, whether we have further questions or different insight, we see the weight of the date of the last post and steer away from it.

 

I wonder if there should be a "recycle" options for threads to generate new interest in old threads that perhaps really never came to a consensus, so that way people can revisit or question without concern that there will be repercussions for re-asking, or exploring in a new way, even though it's really probably never exploring a new angle as much as failure to do homework before asking the question.

[Guest Anonymous]

There is no rule against recycling an old topic with a link to the old thread. Also, you can take an old thread and put a new spin on it with maybe a new angle or more recent insights. I will definitely be doing this. I have had mixed success with it in the past but I think I have a better feel for what people want to talk about.

 

Yeah, don't be afraid to recycle old threads. Most of the old guard are totally gone from this forum. There a few noble hold outs that we admire greatly, but the vast majority of the writers of the early posts are long gone. It's our forum now.

[Brassow]

Since this is the lounge, I can ask if anyone is buying/pirating Fallout 4.

 

I got it via a torrent (dont have a link). It works, I think it's alright. Not much my cup of tea though.

[Drakaina]

I honestly think a big post deterrent in this forum is all of the text walls. As an adult type person, I just don't have time to participate. I actually read all of the new posts a few days back and it took hours! XP

By all means, put content to your posts, but when it gets to essay to short novel length that's just way too much for a conversation post.

[Guest Anonymous]

I honestly think a big post deterrent in this forum is all of the text walls. As an adult type person, I just don't have time to participate. I actually read all of the new posts a few days back and it took hours! XP

By all means, put content to your posts, but when it gets to essay to short novel length that's just way too much for a conversation post.

 

Actually, I must agree with that.

Many of the posts made, primarily the OPs of discussion threads, are simply way too overblown in size for their own good, and my initial "Hey, let's click this thread and read the OP, looks interesting." turns into a sigh, a quick thought of "People, can't you please write in a clear, concise and to-the-point, digestible fashion...?" and a click on the little X in the upper right.

 

Having lots of words isn't a sign of quality for any post.

It just means it's a lot of text.

 

 

Greets,

AG