jean-luc May 2, 2016 May 2, 2016 Please, try to avoid personal attacks. @Sake While I disagree with Nonefromhell about whether you should write the book, I disagree with you that None should not express those oppinions. Just as I would respond to "Why is the sky green" with "It's not green," I think it's perfectly fine for None to respond to "What should I put in my book" with "You shouldn't make a book". Not everyone is enthusiastically going to support all your goals, nor should they. If you want to be a famous actor, I will be the one to face you with the facts; It's incredibly difficult to be an actor, fame isn't all good, it's possible but not likely. If you want nothing but unending encouragment for every endeavor then talk to your mother. That being said, I do think you should write this book. Stats is back: https://stats.jean-luc.org/ My visits to tulpa.info are chaotic. If you want me to see something, make sure to quote a post of mine or ping me @jean-luc
Luminesce May 2, 2016 May 2, 2016 I was not the one who came into this topic with an attitude. I asked for help about questions to answer that would be useful in such a book. You sir turned it into a debate about whether or not I should write a book. You do not come in and tell people who aspire to reach a goal to think about whether or not to reach that goal. You put "Possibly" Writing a Book in your title, implying you were open to reasons you might not actually want to. After stating that you had a well thought out premise, he told you the general opinion people who don't want to spread tulpamancy have and why (there are a lot of people like that believe it or not). He even wrote at the bottom of his first post that it was still your decision and he was only stating his concerns. How does your tulpa feel? I mean honestly, is she really ok with being hidden for her entire life, never being known anything about, just because of the negative reactions people might have? He didn't imply this about his own tulpa at all, or tulpas in general really. The way you put your words pretty much implied that having a tulpa is something which needs special acceptance and support. ... My opinion on this is that neither hosts nor tulpas are poor special snowflakes that needs to be treated special, as long as we're not dealing with a case of suppression. He was talking about writing a book in his posts, not about your tulpa interacting with the world at all. Tons of our tulpas interact with the world just fine. But when it comes to books, there's an awful lot of responsibility and essential information to get across so that 1, people actually understand tulpamancy and we minimize negative views towards it, and 2 (the primary concern of most people with this belief) that you get across very well that this is a serious matter and not to be taken lightly, because the more vague "Tulpa this, tulpa that" the public sees the more poor-quality relationships between hosts and tulpas we see pop up. We tend to be very critical of collections of information on tulpas being put out for many to see, because they're written by one person, not discussed by a whole forum, and they're a very choice selection of information at best. Even then there's still 50/50 people supporting any exposure tulpamancy can get and people wanting to be very selective about how it spreads. So he stated his concerns. He didn't tell you not to write it, he respectfully (ie stated clearly that it was only his opinion) said why you might not want to, or at least why others might not want you to. You're writing an autobiography (or biography, I suppose) about your tulpa, which is great inside tulpa-related communities, but outside of them just based on your table of contents it looks like people aren't going to immediately understand as well as you hope. I recommend you take a little more time to explain the different possible ways tulpas or other thoughtforms come to exist/work/are thought of at the start. Not because it's strictly about you guys, because it might not be, but because it's your responsibility as a possible entry point to tulpamancy to give a modest bit of information for someone to start out with. Maybe point them our way? (Or to r/tulpas at least) That's assuming you're going to be discussing him from a tulpamancy perspective and as a tulpa, though. Assumed because you're asking us on Tulpa.info about it. If you're going to use your own terms (since you don't like sentient 'imaginary friend') then you don't necessarily need to include any of that, but it would still be appreciated. But if you plan on using the word tulpa or a lot of our common beliefs, some general information on them up-front would be a good idea. That's my suggestion. Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn. Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature. My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.
Sake Loup May 2, 2016 Author May 2, 2016 @jean-luc I'm sorry, I know he has every right to his opinion and honestly, I'm fine with that, I'm an adult I get not everyone is gonna be all yeah yay go for it. My only issue is that I didn't ask for that opinion, and his commenting it on my topic was not only pointless and unhelpful, but it steered the topic away from getting the answers I was asking for. He has every right to think how he likes and speak about it yes, what he does not have the right to do is butt in and voice his opinion when I did not ask or want it and draw attention away from what I did want. He could have made his own topic on the discussion of weather or not books about thoughtforms should be written and I would have been 100% fine with that. I think he has a good idea though, we should avoid each other and not draw things out. >.>; I'll try to be more civil, I just get riled up easy, sorry again. You know... I did receive good feedback from you, and from two other forums I'm on, so looking at all of that I do feel I might go ahead with this book anyway. Or maybe it'll be a blog.. idk I got a lot of feedback to make a blog. Maybe I'll make a blog and use feedback from that to write the book. I'll let you know when I have something started if you'd like~ Soulbonder: Sake (rhymes with cake) - 21 - Genderfluid (he/him or she/her) Soulbond: Alex - 5 - Male (he/him) - Vampire
Luminesce May 2, 2016 May 2, 2016 A blog is a much more conducive format to this stuff, not the least of which is because of the ability to link to other sources of information (one of the forums you mentioned for example). Plus you can update it over time instead of trying to write everything all at once. Plus plus, we've had people do it successfully before. Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn. Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature. My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.
Sake Loup May 2, 2016 Author May 2, 2016 @Luminesce Im my title I put 'possibly' because I was considering it not because I wanted opnions on if I should. I apologize that that was not clear. However, I also have in the tile that I want help with questions, and nothing about thoughts outside of that. He may not have meant to imply such things but that's how he came off to me, and on the internet you need to be extremely careful how you word things because I can't hear your tone of voice or see your expression to tell me how you really mean what you are saying. As for the rest of what you have said, THANK YOU, that is a HELPFUL way to EXPLAIN things instead of simply stating an opinion that seems like you are just afraid of consequences. THAT would have been completely acceptable to me if it was phrased like that and explained in detail. To address your concerns on the matter I should clarify, I will not be using tulpa terms nor referring to Alex as a tulpa because he isn't one so I do not believe that I will be drawing much attention to that without giving explanation. I may mention tulpas as in like how we discovered what Alex really was, but I wouldn't just say 'oh we found this forum on tulpas' and leave it to imagination, no, I would clarify that alex is not a tulpa and that we found soulbonding via being told about it after finding this forum which is completely unrelated to souldbonds and if the reader wants to know more they should visit this forum at such and such web address and reseach tulpas as they are very different from myself and my partner. And yes, blogging does sound like a better idea, at least for now until I can gather better ideas on how to go about this as a book. Soulbonder: Sake (rhymes with cake) - 21 - Genderfluid (he/him or she/her) Soulbond: Alex - 5 - Male (he/him) - Vampire
Vos May 2, 2016 May 2, 2016 This isn't something that I'd read, personally, but I do think that a blog would work better for your project, assuming that you're going to go along with it. If you're using Tumblr, other users or guests can ask you questions about your experiences, so you wouldn't have to pump out your own or ask for suggestions here. And of course, like Luminesce said, there are a lot of nifty things like linking that'll help you with your writing. Maybe you could make a book out of your posts at some point. My only issue is that I didn't ask for that opinion. There's nothing wrong with someone voicing their opinion about things like this and giving their critique where they think it's needed. Passive-aggressive comments towards other users because they disagree with you is "pointless and unhelpful", so please try to keep from doing that again.
Sake Loup May 2, 2016 Author May 2, 2016 @Vosaiu Thank you! A blog is seeming more and more like a good idea. I will agree to disagree with you about voicing opinions though. To me that's like saying it's ok if someone says 'I love my dog becuse he's fun to play with' and then another person says 'well I think all dogs should be shot because they can bite you', that is not ok, that is something that should be kept to yourself or voiced only around other dog haters. And I already apologized for getting angry so no need to warn me twice. I recognize that's your job as a mod, but I did apologize for it already just in case you missed it. ^^; Again, thank you for feedback though! c: Soulbonder: Sake (rhymes with cake) - 21 - Genderfluid (he/him or she/her) Soulbond: Alex - 5 - Male (he/him) - Vampire
Brassow May 3, 2016 May 3, 2016 that is something that should be kept to yourself or voiced only around other dog haters. Very important article. Other than that, sure, go out and make your book. Personally, it's not my cup of tea, but don't let others stop you. "Try to get a better understanding of things before making your judgement." -Khan, Metro 2033
Drakaina May 3, 2016 May 3, 2016 If you're using Tumblr, other users or guests can ask you questions about your experiences, so you wouldn't have to pump out your own or ask for suggestions here. Worst platform on the internet for a blog, especially one that wants to be taken seriously. Tumblr is the bastard love child of blogging and social media and drew all of the former MySpace dreck in as its user base. People may leave helpful comments or idea suggestions but I confidently bet dollars to doughnuts That those kinds of replies would be in the extreme minority. If you want the WRONG kind of attention tumblr is the best place to go. All of the kids there will see your cool new concept and run away with it until watet becomes grape juice. In the case of a blog WordPress or Blogger are the ways to go. You could use a site like LiveJournal or DreamWidth but I'm not a fan of their limited options for building your blog as a site. The latter two are much more journal type things than actual blog sites. For the book itself there are lots of "publishing" options,l. Deviant Art would be a good host, or there's a site called WattPad I used to use that's more specialized towards writers and book type submissions. "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." -Arthur Conan Doyle
jean-luc May 3, 2016 May 3, 2016 It's bad to generalize tumblr like that for the same reason it's bad to generalize reddit; some subreddits may be horrible, and some may be amazing, but unless you're critiquing the technology itself that shouldn't stop you from using it. IIRC, you can run a tumblr blog as if tumblr didn't exist. You can use your own custom url, you don't have to interact with anyone else on tumblr, and you can completely redesign everything. Stats is back: https://stats.jean-luc.org/ My visits to tulpa.info are chaotic. If you want me to see something, make sure to quote a post of mine or ping me @jean-luc
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