Procron X August 22, 2016 Author Share August 22, 2016 It is to some. But it's a cage you must put someone else in to get out of. Generally best not to think of it like a cage, and to think of it how it is. There's generally room for compromise anyways. In terms of "compromise," I'd prefer not to, and it doesn't seem like it will be necessary yet as I have full permission to take over. If it ends up being a problem for Amber, then we can compromise. Basically, we'll cross that bridge if we ever get there. Hopefully, it's not an issue of it being a cage for her. This is an interesting, because I have kind of the opposite stance regarding this. I feel like being a human is more of a cage, being subject to the aches and needs of the body in a visceral sort of manner. I feel like as a tulpa I get to pick and choose what elements of the hosts senses and my own that I get to experience. I can hear, see, and touch the beautiful things in life through him, but I'm not in pain when he is, and my body has few limitations compared to his. I get to do things that are not possible for a human, and I enjoy doing said things very much. According to me and my host's lure, I have a different muscle structure that outputs much more strength compared to my body size, about 10x that of a comparable human. Due to this I am able to do a lot athletically, and this fits into me and my host's desire to roleplay different characters in our wonderland, with me as the fighter and my host as more of the mage. I understand that there are limitations to the human body, but if anything, I view that as a welcome change because I see pain and suffering as a necessary part of the human experience, and to miss out on that is to miss out on some fundamental part of what makes you a person. You don't get to face problems, but you also don't get to overcome them. And, sure, you can be a lot of things in wonderland, and if that makes you happy, then congratulations for you, but it will never be satisfying to me. I imagine it like the Matrix. Once you're out in the real world, the Matrix isn't really good enough anymore because you know it's not real. Sure, if you're like Neo, you can be a god there, but really, you don't ACTUALLY have superpowers because it's not really real, is it? It's just a substitute for the actual thing, and I won't take a substitute. Others have responded to this as if this is a bad thing, but I'd rather say that it's not. For as long as you can possess, you do "have" a body, and you're not confined to being a tulpa. As I understand it from how my tulpa and I feel, with control of the body you aren't confined any more than your host is, ultimately. I think it's perfectly valid to not find much interest in imaginary things, and it can potentially help both of you significantly if you choose to seek meaning in the external world. There's a certain double standard in the way people respond, I think; it's okay for a tulpa to have no interest in the physical world, but not a host? I'm not sure if I have anything to add to what you say except that it's quite interesting to think about the double standard. From my conversations, people seem to look down at Amber for not caring for the physical world, like she's a really bad person, and perhaps I contribute to that with my insistence that the only thing that matters is reality. I don't want to make her feel bad, nor anyone else. It's not my intention to shame anyone. I know that I have a different view on reality and subjectivity than my host, and my explanation and questioning only drives me to look down on people without really thinking about it, and it's not really my goal. I fundamentally do not understand why someone would be satisfied with existing in the wonderland and being the helper of the host, but I guess that is my understanding, and perhaps it's not right of me to force that onto anyone else, including my host. So perhaps I'll avoid shaming people on their ambitions and what satisfies them because it's their life and not mine, but I'd ask that you not shame me for wanting to take over for my host and not shame my host for willing to be satisfied with existing in wonderland when so many do the same and are not shamed for it merely because that's where they came from. Niteo and Amber Take On the World Amber speaks in italics right now. Talk to Niteo on here or on discord We share the body, we share a life. I'm not an accessory to his life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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