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Thanks for the help guise. I've been wanting to ask this question for awhile now.

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As for actually feeling something like being punched, it's never happened to me and I'm skeptic about it being possible.

 

Like everything in the mind, I think it's an issue of belief. When I started, I failed at the "visualize a red square" exercise, but I've assumed from the start that imagined senses can be as vivid as real ones. I point at dreams (lucid and otherwise) for evidence of this. I'm pretty sure that with enough practice and meditation, one can get basically a waking lucid dream. I'm not at that level yet, and vividity goes up and down from day to day, but it's gotten pretty good by now.

 

I've had a couple experiences where I got pretty much dream-level clarity on visualization. This includes a few randomly-occurring times where I sat down to force, shut my eyes and immediately the place I visualize shows up clear as day, like the whole "seeing through one's eyelids" thing, in greater detail than reality.

 

Touch, sight and sound work pretty well for me, and touch is strongest. If I make a ball in the wonderland, I hold it in my hand and focus on how it feels in every detail. Sight and sound follow. Once I have the feel of the ball, I just look down and it's there. If I whack it against something, it makes a sound. Taste is iffy and requires more focus, and smell is hard to get much of at all.

 

Warmth works too, though usually imposed on the body, and when I'm not forcing. The other day, I sat on the wonderland couch and was waiting for the tulpae to finish whatever they were doing and join me. I got a subtle wave of warmth on one side, like someone was next to me -- Lyra had just sat down there.

 

As for pain, I've never had it in the wonderland, but psychosomatic pain is quite real. I had a dream where I got stabbed and shortly afterward woke up with a searing pain in my side. It remained for about half a minute until I was awake enough to realize that it wasn't really there, and it promptly disappeared.

Lyra: human female, ~17

Evan: boy, ~14, was an Eevee

Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her

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