Yori October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 Sands, unfortunately I can't say I haven't been attracted to cartoons before. So I don't understand why the person not actually being real would affect the hotness. And people have called their tulpa hot before. My lip hurts.
Sands October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 The point is that it's stupid to try to compare beings that can change their form into anything they want. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Yori October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 It's not stupid if the beings don't actually want to morph. It's more like comparing rich people that have plastic surgeon services near them, but won't use them. She said she wasn't going to morph, and my tulpa doesn't morph either. So I think it would be alright to still compare and not say it's stupid just because they have the -ability- and not the will to make themselves something else. My lip hurts.
Sands October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 Just because they don't doesn't mean they can't, also their bodies aren't physical and were created, usually to look attractive. And no, you can't try adding in another shitty analogy and compare it to plastic surgeries. You know that plastic surgery has actual dangers to it, right? It doesn't always work and in many cases you'll be left with scars? Trying to rate them goes nowhere when they could very well try to one up the other. That and beauty is pretty subjective. All in all, the entire conversation was stupid and you made yourself look very stupid with all the shit you claimed. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Yori October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 "Just because they don't doesn't mean they can't, also their bodies aren't physical and were created, usually to look attractive. And no, you can't try adding in another shitty analogy and compare it to plastic surgeries. You know that plastic surgery has actual dangers to it, right? It doesn't always work and in many cases you'll be left with scars?" You are missing the point, again. No one said they can't, but if they don't, the fact they /could/ try to change if they wanted to doesn't affect the contest. I am not sure that tulpa are usually created to look attractive. Some aren't people. It doesn't matter if plastic surgery has dangers, people still use it, is the point. If they were to go and get it, and look different, the contest would been thrown up. As for beauty being subjective, I know that. Tulpa with most votes wins though. Just like a lot of things. Votes on ideas, votes on rules, etc. My lip hurts.
Sands October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 I think you're missing the point when you still try to say this is exactly like plastic surgery, which it isn't. This has no risks, could be done in a split second and reverted just as fast. And yes, the fact that they are imaginary forms is still a key point in this, because... They are imaginary forms. Huh. Who woulda thunk. I hope you're not planning on having a vote about something's beauty when that thing only exists in your head and only you can see them? I hope you're starting to see why the stuff you've said has been pretty stupid and why others are shaking their heads at you? The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Maelstrom October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 You couldn't even get a photo-realistic drawing of a tulpa anyways. Not even sure why you would want to do a comparison between two beings who have to be drawn by two different people (their hosts, who are the only one's who can get all the details) while the artists have different styles. Also, isn't it commonly said that you don't create a tulpa for their form? How doesn't that apply here?
Kiahdaj October 23, 2013 October 23, 2013 1. Beauty is subjective 2. That's like making fun of a poor person, when they chose to be poor. It's what they wanted. 3. Just because someone gets more votes, doesn't mean they're more attractive. 4. Claiming your imaginary friend is more attractive than someone else's imaginary friend makes you look quite stupid. 5. Yes, tuppers are in fact made to be attractive, almost all the time; even if not a human form--that is what the host finds attractive, sexual or not. My tulpa is extremely attractive, and I made it that way because 1. why not, and 2. because it's something nice to look at, even if I don't want to fuck it. You know what all this means? It means that (again, calling on the 'subjective' bit, which you so expertly seem to miss) the host--Zero in this case--thinks their tupper is more attractive than yours. Because they made them that way, and not whatever yours looks like. This is really sad, and funny; all at the same time. "If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."
Yori October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 Kiahdaj, I meant physically attractive. Animals, when the people aren't attracted to them, could only be something like dog show contests or something. 1. Said this already. Your point? I doubt you pick on other subjective contests (clothes, animal shows, etc) 2. Uh, no, it's not like making fun of anyone. 3. Nope. What's wrong with that? We already treat them like people. 4. That's.. your opinion, hardly an argument... and you could've saved a lot of space by simply saying "I think this is stupid" because your other points aren't much either. 5. Like I said above, "attractive" here doesn't just mean anything the host likes in any way. Talking about human beauty or handsome..ness. And sometimes, hosts let them choose their own form. I think you're missing the point when you still try to say this is exactly like plastic surgery, which it isn't. This has no risks, could be done in a split second and reverted just as fast. And yes, the fact that they are imaginary forms is still a key point in this, because... They are imaginary forms. Huh. Who woulda thunk. I hope you're not planning on having a vote about something's beauty when that thing only exists in your head and only you can see them? I hope you're starting to see why the stuff you've said has been pretty stupid and why others are shaking their heads at you? Sands, why do you always twist my points? It's like you don't even read what I said. I never said it was exactly like plastic surgery. It doesn't matter if it has no risks. Yes, plastic surgery has risks and takes longer, the point is, if two people plan on using it to beat the other, it's over. Indeed, the fact they're imaginary is true, but it's as usable as a point as saying that the two hosts in this case are human. Yes, that's true, but it's a random statement that doesn't really mean "therefore, this contest is stupid." And no, Sands, it's not just me that can see them. If you were there, you'd know that her form is already drawn and readily available on the internet. As for Zero's, I just went by description and reference picture. It's not like this was a super serious contest anyway. I'd have made Zero draw an accurate picture if it was. I don't know why people are picking at it so damn much. Shouldn't have entertained this srz debate in the first place. "Omg, so stupid, she tried to have a totes legit beauty contest between tulpa on IRC! Srz Bznz! Beauty is like, subjective! She can't do this." Who. Cares? This is as petty as people complaining about hugging (on IRC)^^.Yes, we get that the hugs aren't actually real. Is it that big of a deal? I don't even know why I actually replied and gave this any dignity. (Note to Sands: Please do not reply saying that beauty contests are not the same as hugging. I'm not saying that at all. I repeat: This does not imply that at all. It just scores the same on the pettiness scale. That is it. You don't understand that comparisons don't have to be between every aspect of something.. you always extend people's comparisons or analogies, to the point where it seems that you wouldn't stop "correcting" them saying obvious things like "plastic surgery isn't instantaneous and is risky" until the two things were exactly equal. If this fails, and you still don't understand, just go with this: Complaining about beauty contests in a non-serious discussion is as petty as... complaining about beauty contests in a non-serious discussion. Also, isn't it commonly said that you don't create a tulpa for their form? How doesn't that apply here? I don't know what you mean by the bottom part. I think you misunderstood something, I never said that people mostly created tulpa for their form. You couldn't even get a photo-realistic drawing of a tulpa anyways. Not even sure why you would want to do a comparison between two beings who have to be drawn by two different people (their hosts, who are the only one's who can get all the details) while the artists have different styles. My tulpa isn't photo-realistic anyway. And, I've actually compared drawn people drawn by two different artists. For example, Katara is hotter than Ashira. xD. Think of it as comparing two people with different looks. Humor thread successfully derailed into form arguments. You did this? ;-; My lip hurts.
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