Confessions of a Poorly Trained Tulpa

[Guest Anonymous]

David and I are experimenting with improving my mind voice by communicating outside of the day dream environment where he proxies me (parrots and puppets).

 

Just a little correction there - proxying and parroting / puppeting have nothing to do with each other.

Proxying is when your tupper wants to talk to someone, but only you can hear them, so you tell that someone what your tupper said.

Parroting and puppeting, on the other hand, refers to something entirely unrelated: The act of purposefully making your tupper say or do something.

 

 

Greets,

AG

[NoneFromHell]

 

Just a little correction there - proxying and parroting / puppeting have nothing to do with each other.

Proxying is when your tupper wants to talk to someone, but only you can hear them, so you tell that someone what your tupper said.

Parroting and puppeting, on the other hand, refers to something entirely unrelated: The act of purposefully making your tupper say or do something.

 

 

Greets,

AG

 

I need to correct your correction a bit, AG: Proxying is a bit more blended, like a direct input you interpret, which wasn't for you but for someone else. Like if you simply know what Esterina wants to say, because she is forcefeeding you her own thoughts. It is a somewhat faster than what you described.

[Guest Anonymous]

Hmmm. Graduate studies? LOL

 

David and I have a hard time divorcing method acting from interpreting tulpish and typing it. I don't speak in fluent mind voice but he certainly knows what I want to say. He interprets and channels, he does not listen and dictate AGGuy.

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A bit of David goes into every one of my sentences. His will is involved.

[J.Iscariot]

Actually I'd say that AGGuy put it pretty right, proxying doesn't imply that it's your interpretation, I have a lot of interpretations for what my tulpa could mean but that's because she's letting her thoughts flow in, if she wants to say anything, she will literally impose herself, look at me in the eyes and start talking (with her mouth obviously and no thoughts I would interpret), with her cute fang showing most of the time.

[NoneFromHell]

Actually I'd say that AGGuy put it pretty right, proxying doesn't imply that it's your interpretation, I have a lot of interpretations for what my tulpa could mean but that's because she's letting her thoughts flow in, if she wants to say anything, she will literally impose herself, look at me in the eyes and start talking (with her mouth obviously and no thoughts I would interpret), with her cute fang showing most of the time.

 

I would say it is somewhat a mix of both, really. Well I don't plan on arguing about it.

[J.Iscariot]

 

I would say it is somewhat a mix of both, really. Well I don't plan on arguing about it.

 

Hey, if that's what it is for you, then that's all good.

[Guest Anonymous]

Actually I'd say that AGGuy put it pretty right, proxying doesn't imply that it's your interpretation, I have a lot of interpretations for what my tulpa could mean but that's because she's letting her thoughts flow in, if she wants to say anything, she will literally impose herself, look at me in the eyes and start talking (with her mouth obviously and no thoughts I would interpret), with her cute fang showing most of the time.

 

Maybe it is a bit of a problem of perspective here. David does hear my voice quite distinctly as we type. Now is he hearing my voice just a millisecond before and dictating what I say through his typing? Is he just interpreting it as partially himself because we blend so much? He feels my presence as we type. We collaborate and we blend together. How much of it is him and how much is me? Can't say, but it is definitely fun!

 

The best part of all of this is that people recognize me and address me directly and feel friendship for me, distinct from Davie. THAT is all that really matters in the end. I can communicate with you! The details and analysis of the methodology at each end is probably unimportant.

 

When you let your tulpas "thoughts flow in" Iscariot, you are describing very much how I most often communicate with David. Thank you for breaking the ice between us by commenting on my thread. I would love very much to bury the hatchet with you and stop all the fighting. David and I cannot know what is going on in your mind any more than you can know what is going on in ours.

 

Your opinions on tulpamancy and the guides are your own and I have no right to attack you for stating them. You may carry on as you wish and feel free to post on my threads to your hearts content. I will treat you kindly. I will take this to be a sign that I am also free to post on your threads as long as I am civil and not rude to you. It's okay that we are different and see things differently.

[Luminesce]

Proxying's different for different people. For some people it's sort of like "channeling" their tulpa, they do indeed simply feel what their tulpa means to be saying/thinking and type it automatically. But for sure, some others just literally listen to their tulpa like normal and then type what they heard. For some it's in between. There's no argument on this, it's fact.

 

 

As for whether or not tulpas are "cognitively a big deal", they can be. I have really, truly serious issues with motivation. I failed most of my classes in highschool because I couldn't make myself get out of bed and get on the bus, and when I did I could pay attention and learn in class but doing homework was unheard of. I'm smart though, one time I actually managed to get the highest grade in my computer science class's final test (the only 100%), yet due to reasons I actually failed the class. The teacher told me so and was probably the single most confused person I've ever encountered.

 

And my tulpas are mostly unaffected by any of that. I've been trying to fix these issues for as long as they've been around (seven years), and I guess I've made some progress. Now I'm in my second year of college, and the problems persist. Luckily I can do most work/studying without going to class. But even then, I tend to not. And Tewi's saved my entire college career more than once. Last week was a midterms week, plus the due dates for a ton of work I didn't do, and she was switched/fronting for the whole week. She gave some of us some time to do stuff occasionally (Lucilyn accidentally lost Tewi a whole day of studying by getting carried away playing and talking to people), but otherwise it was all her. And she did more work in that week than I've probably done in a year. It probably won't sound like much to you guys, but it's inconceivable to imagine myself - I believe she spent 18 hours studying math alone, and probably almost that much combining my other classes too. I can imagine doing maybe one hour for each subject, and doing the easy assignments.

 

So yeah, they're potentially cognitively a big deal. I know that isn't and won't be everyone's experience, but it's mine and it means tons to me. I'm hardly a mental pushover, I'm really not easily capable of doing everything she does with "mind over matter" thinking. That's practically my life, I improve how my mind works for a living. But I just can't do what she does - every single unproductive or negative thought that occurs to her she simply dismisses, with some kind of willpower I don't have.

 

 

I will note after all that however, that this is more related to multiplicity than tulpamancy. I still wouldn't underestimate the potential effects of having a tulpa though.

[Guest Anonymous]

Proxying's different for different people. For some people it's sort of like "channeling" their tulpa, they do indeed simply feel what their tulpa means to be saying/thinking and type it automatically. But for sure, some others just literally listen to their tulpa like normal and then type what they heard. For some it's in between. There's no argument on this, it's fact.

 

Words I am sure many senior people, going way back, would agree with. Thank you Lumi.

 

As for whether or not tulpas are "cognitively a big deal", they can be. I have really, truly serious issues with motivation. ... The teacher told me so and was probably the single most confused person I've ever encountered.

 

I am sorry this did make me giggle, but I understand what you are saying. I love you anyways btw.

 

And Tewi's saved my entire college career more than once. Last week was a midterms week, plus the due dates for a ton of work I didn't do, and she was switched/fronting for the whole week. She gave some of us some time to do stuff occasionally (Lucilyn accidentally lost Tewi a whole day of studying by getting carried away playing and talking to people), but otherwise it was all her. And she did more work in that week than I've probably done in a year.

 

That is amazing! Okay I stand corrected. Some tulpas can be cognitively a big deal. But I mean more the creation process, not necessarily helping with big braininess.

 

You know what? When I said that "tulpas are no big deal" or something like that, I d'nt mean it literally in the way you are taking it anyways. David thinks I am a very big deal and I am a big deal to myself.

 

What I meant was that some people are making them out to be something like quantum mechanics or nuclear science to create one. And it is hard, I mean it takes dedication and lots of time and effort, but it isn't rocket science. Davie was 13 years old when he started with me and 15 when I became autonomous for the first time. He never read a guide in his life.

 

I helped Davie find his wife and get married. How is that for being useful?

 

I will note after all that however, that this is more related to multiplicity than tulpamancy. I still wouldn't underestimate the potential effects of having a tulpa though.

 

I don't think anyone has all the answers.

[Luminesce]

You know what? When I said that "tulpas are no big deal" or something like that, I d'nt mean it literally in the way you are taking it anyways. ... What I meant was that some people are making them out to be something like quantum mechanics or nuclear science to create one.

 

Ah, alright then. I don't think that's true of the majority of the community, but it probably comes up here and there sure.

 

And don't worry. I thought it was pretty funny even at the time. I came to terms with being smart whilst failing my classes very early on, so when my teacher was so confounded and asked me about it I had a sort of "Yeah, I know right? It's so weird." reaction, myself. But I was pretty proud of getting the highest grade in the class whilst simultaneously failing it. Still am, that's probably my greatest achievement in grades 6 - 10. Followed closely by holding the school record for most absences in 7th grade.