Personality problems

[GreenCore]

I am having trouble.....

 

I have started making a tulpa today, but I just cannot seem to think of enough things to make even 30 minutes of forcing, Its just I run out of things relevant to its personality

[Sorryman54]

This problem happened to me too. List each trait in painstakingly good detail. "You are X. X makes others percieve you as X. X often ties in with X and X." Stuff like that. If you can't elaborate on the trait anymore, revist is later and do a different trait.

[Romm]

I didn't even bothered much with personality traits, I just listed them bluntly (about 5-6 general things I wanna see in her) and reminded them on occasion I loosed grasp. It's much more important however that you should know how your tulpa would act on daily basis or in different situations, if you got it then you don't have to bother with stretching time stating the obvious. You may play some scenes with her in your mind to plan how she can/would react otherwise.

[Sorryman54]

Well, I finished my tulpa's personality in less than two hours. I already knew her character well enough, and I felt I was finished. Also, that last sentence about seeing how they would react is parroting/puppeting. I'd advise against parroting unless you want to kickstart your speech. If you puppet too much, you will sub-c parrot her. Just look at Fede's tuppers.

[Guest Anonymous]

On the opposite end of the spectrum from sorryman54, you can do what I did and make a metric shit-ton of charts, graphs, and lists detailing every important personality trait, like, dislike, and hobby. I went overboard and ended up with 84 traits, but you could get away with a good 25-30. When it comes to the actual forcing, the end of FAQ_Man's guide is rather useful as a general overview of what you should be forcing.

 

From the guide: "When you're outlining the trait be sure to include: How the trait helps them rationalize, how the trait works within their logic system, how the trait plays a role in morality, their perception, their likes, dislikes, social endeavors, faith, personality, quirks, emotions, how the trait makes them interpret their own emotions, how the trait plays a role in their hobbies, and many other things not listed here."

 

From there consider how long you plan on working on personality total, then do a little math to figure out how long you should be doing each trait so they're all covered evenly. As I said, I went overboard, so I ended up calculating sub-sections of each trait to figure out perfectly even figures, but it's unnecessary.

 

At the very least, I'd recommend making a tree diagram for your tulpa's personality traits. Start with 4 main personality traits on the top, then draw three descending branches from each trait, with similar traits to the root trait at each end of the branch. Then branch those traits out to three even more defined traits and you've got an even 28 traits in a logical format to follow. With that you would do each trait for 15 minutes with 3 hours of review to total 15 hours, the perfect recommended median.

[TulpaCouple]

Here is what I did.

 

Take your trait. It is just one word right now, really only an idea even. Let's try to expand the idea into more. I'll use my tulpa as an example.

 

The big core traits he has are that he is laid back, kind, perceptive, playful, and intellectual.

 

Each of those traits also can connect and make new traits. Because he has a laid back attitude on life and is kind, he is forgiving. Because he is kind and perceptive, he is polite. Because he is perceptive and intellectual, he is a problem-solver. etc.

 

Now I can think of many more things to talk about. He is forgiving..but is he always forgiving? When does he draw the line? Is he so laid back it can be percieved as lazy by others? Is he perceptive enough to know when to get work done? Does his politeness stifle his playfulness, or does he sometimes let a joke or two step over the line when it is just too funny not to share.

 

I can think of examples when he would be forgiving or accepting and when he may be more inclined to protect himself or others. Think of scenes when this would happen and what he would do. What would he be interested in based on these traits? Would his laid back nature prevent him from becoming obsessed with his hobbies, or would his intellectual drive keep him studying?

 

Next I can think of motivations. WHY is he so laid back? How can he be so forgiving and trusting of others? He must be confident in himself. Why? Because he knows who he is--he is a tulpa. He feels pride in himself. He also can be willing to trust and let people possibly hurt him--because he does not put his entire self worth on what other's think, because of his own confidence and because he pulls strength from the fact that he knows he is loved.

 

Next I can think of how his traits would affect our relationship. What kind of games would he enjoy, how would his traits affect our hanging out. He may tell me to chill out and let things happen, as I am more stressed than he is. He may be more perceptive than me and point out that I may have hurt someone's feelings, or that someone may be lying to us. He might want to find ways to make our days of studying more fun.

 

I can think of what he is like when he is alone, what he is like with me, and what he is like when with others(like speaking on the IRC)

 

I can remember how other's with similar traits have acted and describe those scenarios. I can describe pieces of myself that describe his traits. I can describe how the traits make me feel and how they make him feel.

 

Is he driven most by his want to be learned? Does he live his life through seeming luck--which is truly skillful dialogue and action due to his perceptive nature? Does he just want to lay in the sun all day? If he could have anything in the world at any moment---what then would he want to do as a hobby? Why? Does he seek to help others or does he seek to be self serving. Is he private or is he very open about his feelings?

 

There is plenty to talk about here!

[tania]

Now I can think of many more things to talk about. He is forgiving..but is he always forgiving? When does he draw the line? Is he so laid back it can be percieved as lazy by others? Is he perceptive enough to know when to get work done? Does his politeness stifle his playfulness, or does he sometimes let a joke or two step over the line when it is just too funny not to share.

 

I can think of examples when he would be forgiving or accepting and when he may be more inclined to protect himself or others. Think of scenes when this would happen and what he would do. What would he be interested in based on these traits? Would his laid back nature prevent him from becoming obsessed with his hobbies, or would his intellectual drive keep him studying?

 

With my own method I put all my Tulpas traits in order of importance so its clear what one overrides in some amount over another a trait. Listing in order of importance also makes things happen less randomly if you've forgotten to think about how two traits go together and I think can be quite important if a persons Tulpa has many traits (mine has current 34 but 64 things coming into play if I count his skills and hobbies too).

 

We ourselves have various degrees of traits, no trait is hardly ever equal with another and hence Ive made my Tulpa in the same way.

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When I program a trait, I do notes of things about that trait eg I ended up having to add in confident as couragous wasnt covering things which I discovered when with couragous alone, my Tulpa wasnt acting or giving out emotions which were confident at all times. I got back an "I dont know" reply with came with it the emotion of confusion.. all cause he wasnt confident to express what he truely thought, he wasnt purposely lying to me but so unsure of himself it affected his answer. When I had to add in the "confidence" I did research into the difference between the two and then that info was my programming (I didnt do any further programming except the research and putting then thought of him having that onto him). Often I just program thou research of the trait.

 

When I programmed "Being devoted to me" I put together a list of things and used the list (with the help of a magazine article, taking out the things i didnt see suitable for his programming and changing things here and there).

eg

My Devotion towards me programming went

1/ hug me

2 rub my back or massage me

3/ hold hands

4/ say "I love You"

5/ Compliment things I do

6/ Make up a poem for how special I are and read it to me

7/ Greet me first in the morning

8/ Tell me how proud of me you are

9/ Dedicate a song to me

10/ Ask if you can help if I are sad

11/ Ask about my dreams

12/ Tell me what you like about me

13/ Let me know when you have thought of me during the day

14/ Tell me I look attractive

15/ Listen openly when our opinions differ

16/ Let me know that you care

17/ Tell me that you like what I do

18/ Watch TV/DVDs with me and snuggle up to me

19/ Smile more when you look at me

20/ Listen when Im talking about my interests and be genuinely interested

21/ Offer to help

22/ Look at me when we are talking

23/ Write me a love letter and read it to me

24/ Hold me when Im going to sleep.

 

I just put out the suggestions to my Tulpa and dont visualise any of it as I dont want to puppet him. Interestingly he responded days later expressing being loving towards me for the first time in a different way to anything on this list, something I hadnt even thought of.. he sat me on his lap across his knees (something no boyfriend has done to me since a teen and something I hadnt even thought I was ever missing).

 

My personal view is the less parroting or puppeting the better.

 

I personally see personality traits as very important if one wants to have the Tulpa one would truely like. I find they also make the Tulpa what they are, make them a thinking energy form very fast. Create the Tulpa into something which is far more then just a image. Leave things to chance too much and you could end up with anything. (All the attention on personality traits also helps to energise the thoughtform quite a lot too.... the more intense the thoughts the better, so is as valuable for that as the visualisation of ones Tulpa is).

 

One last thing I want to say is I think its very important to think yourself deeply on the trait rather then just copy what another has done with their Tulpa programming.. as that deep thinking about it helps with the programming of the trait. If you are thinking of the trait only superficially, you will need to spend a lot more time on its programming (I find due to being a deep thinker, I only need to spend 5-20 mins on a trait, my average is about 10 mins all up per trait).