Living Imagination (A Median Aspect in Tulpa Land)

[Guest Anonymous]

End of the Seventeen Month Emotional War with Tulpa Info

(emotional/insecurity war concerning whether tulpas are illusions and Melian's status in the community)

 

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[Guest Anonymous]

Once again we are going to use an internet log and time limits on internet usage. Also we are spending more time on Deviantart and less time on Tulpa Info. My apologies for that. If we can count calories to control my food intake and body weight, we can count internet minutes to control the internet addiction.

[Guest Anonymous]

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Magic and Mystery in Tibet (1932) by Alexandra David Neel

Magical Use of Thoughtforms by J.H. Brennan

Magic and Mysticism in Tibet by J.H. Brennan

Tibetan Magic and Mysticism  by J.H. Brennan

Thought-Forms and Hallucinations by Chidambaram Ramesh

Encountering Jung: Jung on Active Imagination by Joan Chodorow

The illusion of Independent Agency research article by Taylor, Hodges and Kohanyi

(http://sta.sh/0pxbf2ne7pc)

 

Plus all the magazine articles and research papers done on tulpamancers so far: 

 

Love, Love My Tulpa

Paranormalizing the Popular through the Tibetan Tulpa: Or what the next Dalai Lama, the X Files and Affect Theory (might) have in common

The Internet's Newest Subculture Is All About Creating Imaginary Friends

Varieties of Tulpa Experiences: Sentient Imaginary Friends, Embodied Joint Attention, and Hypnotic Sociality in a Wired World

 

Plus all the Guides on Tulpa Info, the FAQ, and the Glossary.  

 

I am no closer to really understanding tulpas.   Oh and yes, that is Psychology for Dummies.  So sue me.  I am Spock by Leonard Nimoy is a great book about a fictive median aspect (in my opinion).

[Guest Anonymous]

From now on Melian and I will accept our status as pretentious, attention seeking special snowflakes who are improperly sentient.  LOL  We are damned proud of it too damn it.  

 

We are a vulgar and crude form of mushy, undefined, improper sentience.  You know, like those bad neighbors with the messy yard bringing down the property values in the neighborhood?

[Stevie]

I check this thread just to see what kind of declarations y'all are making this week and I'm never disappointed. I imagine like a Town Crier unrolling some scroll and going:

 

"Here ye, here ye! This week! Mistgod and Melian are improperly sentient!"

[Guest Anonymous]

Yay!  I am glad you enjoy it.  We are trying to stick to our new model and motto too:

 

"Let it go!  The war is over."  

 

Yeah we are so like, inspired, to start fights.  It's like super ingrained in our DNA.  "Oh look, this person said something that sounds like an opportunity to be a contrary dick head!"  OH it is really hard to resist the temptations.  Today it was a couple of things but especially, especially someone saying "most people never achieve proper sentience." OH my gods that got Mistgod all spun up like instantly.  That's when we decided to be a vulgar, crude form of improperly sentient.

 

We are trying to be good I swear to the stars we are!

[tulpa001]

@books:

 

Hah, I grant you this. That is an impressive research effort. The field is just too young.

 

If you could recommend one book to a tulpa for self discovery (not I am spock), and one article, which would you choose?

[Guest Anonymous]

The Savage Minds anthropology article is very comprehensive and in depth and interesting. I would start there. link

[Guest Anonymous]

Maybe I have been looking at this wrong and missing what is right in front of me?  It's not that some tulpamancers are failing to achieve real sentience in a their tulpas, it is that tulpamancers are supposed to achieve what seems like something real, but realize that is is only a hallucination?  After all that is what Alexandra David Neel realized.  

 

 

Maybe I should say that not all tulpamancers make the proper realization that their tulpa is an illusion?  After all that is what the Tibetan monks were supposed to come to realize.

 

From Wikipedia:  As the Tibetan use of the tulpa concept is described in the book Magical Use of Thoughtforms, the student was expected to come to the understanding that the tulpa was just a hallucination. While they were told that the tulpa was a genuine deity, "The pupil who accepted this was deemed a failure – and set off to spend the rest of his life in an uncomfortable hallucination."

 

Yep.  Chew on that.  I think many people just have some growing to do is all.   Maybe I am the enlightened one after all instead of the confused person?  It certainly is possible.  I have decided to take J.H. Brennan and Alexandra David Neel as experts in this area and follow their lead.  After all, they were the "authorities" writing about this decades ago.

 

I can't really pussy foot around.  It's possible I am wrong, but this is my position now.  I am sticking with it.  There was an important second part to what the student monk was supposed to realize.  They were supposed to further understand that if they could create a believable hallucination that seemed absolutely real, then nothing is truly real and the entire universe is subjective.  All of our perception is an illusion.  

 

I can live with that.  The point is that I was right all along, tulpas are illusions.  Hah!  Melian is no less real and no more real than any tulpa or anything else for that matter.  It's all BS.  I just happen to pick my own BS to believe in.  

 

Oh just kidding.  Mostly.  (as Melian would say)

[tulpa001]

There are two sides to every coin. The idea of one is very important in buddhism. There is only one. There is also many, but the many is also one. Or in other words. If the tulpa is an illusion, so is the self as independent from the universe. Either we are all real, or we are all illusion. In this case, I think a buddhist would say both. Is this really the position you want to take?

 

It's not like most buddhist thoughtforms are taken to be illusions anyway. Not that I really studied the issue closely, but when you get into this religion deeply, you find both space and time are illusions. And emanations are a way of expressing yourself. They are both you and not you. And some living people are believed to have been created this way.