Change to current terms

[SSaint]

We need any edge we can get if we want to get any decent research or funding.

Maybe if we got De Lancie to make a tulpa documentary...

[Mister_Moniker]

Maybe if we got De Lancie to make a tulpa documentary...

 

de Lancie already has a Discord tulpa, obvs.

[Purlox]

It's sad to see that so many of you are too used to the terms (except Visualization and Vocalization) to see how they can be harmful to newcomers. They can be confusing to them and some of them also make us look a bit less scientific. So why not change them? Just because you are used to them already? Don't forget that there will be much more members in the future, so changing the terms now seems like a good idea, because it won't affect that many people.

 

If you don't want to change the terms just because I present bad alternatives, then give us a better ones.

 

Anyway, I agree with using Mindscape (and possibly also Dreamscape) instead of Wonderland.

[SSaint]

Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with deviation, narration, visualization, and vocalization. I understood what they meant right away (except vocalization, is that getting your tulpa to talk, or imagining what it's voice is like, or what?) and they don't make me think, "there are those weird hippies you hear on coast-to-coast." Changing visualization makes less than 0 sense. Like it would be actively harmful to our lexicon to get rid of it.

 

Hologram I have little to say on. It's a stupid term and I have heard it in the context of tulpas exactly 0 times.

 

I think tulpaforcing sounds weird and crazy, but I don't feel like coming up with a better word for it.

 

I really don't get what's wrong with wonderland, though. Furthermore, I don't see how mindscape, dreamscape, or memory palace are any better. I think wonderland is the least Twilight-Zonesque of all those things.

[Avalanche]

It's sad to see that so many of you are too used to the terms (except Visualization and Vocalization) to see how they can be harmful to newcomers. They can be confusing to them and some of them also make us look a bit less scientific. So why not change them? Just because you are used to them already? Don't forget that there will be much more members in the future, so changing the terms now seems like a good idea, because it won't affect that many people.

 

If you don't want to change the terms just because I present bad alternatives, then give us a better ones.

 

Anyway, I agree with using Mindscape (and possibly also Dreamscape) instead of Wonderland.

 

It's not sad to see that the terms are harmful. Everyone here has used these terms for 3,4,5+ months and we're all ok. The only causes for mishaps have been negligence and not knowing some facts. To hell with newcomers who get scared off because of the terms. If they take a look at the slang word tulpaforce and think we are all crazy, then they shouldn't be making a tulpa in the first place.

 

Different terms are good for different people. These terms are just slang or shorter and are on topic, so they appeal to those types of people.

If we changed tulpaforce to "sex-mate growing" then we would attract all the creepy tulpafuckers. If you changed tulpaforcing to "soulmate creation" we would get all the metafags.

 

The terms fit the subject and the subject fits the people. We are a community of tulpaforcers, who aren't ALL (as much as I'd like it to be) science oriented. If everyone here took a completely psychological view on tulpae, the term tulpaforce would be "psycho-orientation" or something like that.

 

And we aren't going to produce better alternatives, because anything is an alternative. We don't need a change. We don't need to sound more scientific. We don't need to sound more realistic and official just to keep more new members. If you leave because you don't like the slang terms then you shouldn't be here.

[Sands]

Visualization definitely should not be changed, it makes perfect sense. Visualization can be both creating the form, learning to see and both at the same time. "To see" means jack shit. I usually say I go talk to my tupper when talking about narration but I can suggest "narration" to other people if they seem to understand basic tupper words. "Narration" probably is the word that is going to cause the most confusion, but you'll still get threads about "how do i talk to tupper guise?" no matter what.

 

While deviation and tulpaforcing might be slightly offensive if you're a person or a tupper who gets easily offended, they are simple words that tell enough about what is happening. If you feel the word doesn't fit, then you use another word instead. Simple. If Roswell had a say, he probably wouldn't even want to be called a tulpa because he's about as much of a tulpa as I am, but he understands it helps others to understand our relationship and his origin so he sucks it up and doesn't get his panties in a bunch because of it.

 

Wonderland I don't much care for but eh, who cares, call it whatever you want. Hologram I have seen used once in a guide describing an imposed, non-sentient tulpa, vocalization... I don't even quite sure know what it means and I've rarely seen it used. It is a bit silly how most of your suggestions for a word are mutiple words that mean the same thing and most of the terms don't even really need an explanation in the first place. Never had a problem with the most used ones and I am rather new to this whole thing compared to many. And English ain't even my native tongue, bro. Shit's pretty straightforward.

 

Should some words be changed? I dunno. If you don't like a word, use another word that makes sense. If people like it, they'll start using it, too. If they feel it is inferior then they don't use it. Language evolves, you don't just change it. Unless you follow what those countries who wish to keep their language "pure" do, but none of us exactly have that kind of power so it is impossible. You can scream "WORKING ON THE TULPA, NOT TULPAFORCING!" all you want, but if someone likes forcing more then they will keep using it and spreading it around. Same happens if you scream tulpaforcing and someone likes "working on the tulpa" more.

[Pronas]

It's nice to see you all wanting to get recognized by scientists and researchers and all that. But in my opinion we were doomed from the start. Who the hell will seriously research this when 90% of this forum is composed of underage people? Everyone will just say this is a "teenager thing" like, you know, teen werewolves and such.

And let's not forget people like me who made a tulpa based on a japanese cartoon or the trillions of people with a my little pony tulpa.

Let's just be honest and see that, this really can't be taken seriously at all unless you have a lot of goodwill and knows how to filter information. Which is basically what a minority of people can do, since most of them will only see the "stupid, kiddy" part of the site.

 

Also, slowpoke here. Irish used the term "wonderland" because he couldn't find a better word and his tulpa is american mcgee's alice. :I

[Guest]

You underestimate the hesitance of anyone with a reputation in science or psychology when it comes to phenomena as on-the-fence of metaphysics as tulpae are. If I were researching potential topics to study, and came across some forums packed the brim with basement dwelling asspies talking about sticking their yogurt cannon in tupperware in their wonderland, and tulpaforcing pastel equine from a child's show as imaginary sex toys, I wouldn't bother to research any further. We need any edge we can get if we want to get any decent research or funding.

I know, I know. It still just utterly bothers me how narrow-minded or even arrogant "their" community can be... Those scientists and psychologists, ugh. I doubt most of them even know how to use a computer without breaking it at least once a month.

[Sock]

Yes, the userbase being what it is will pose a problem in making this site seem not like a bunch of wannabe wizards going on about casting spells, but I'm not of the opinion that we shouldn't even try to clean it up, or make it more accessible. It's a very interesting phenomenon, and I think it would be a huge waste to not let others know of it, how it works, and how it applies to other things just because we're not willing to give up the incredibly goofy and awkward "tulpaforce". Honestly, I wouldn't mind even dumping "tulpa" either, as there's far too many metaphysical ties to it, and makes it look like we're preforming some kind of voodoo, rather than examining how the mind can create separate consciousnesses, and how those separate "beings" are like ourselves, and what that means about the nature of humans, etc. Also imaginary buddies. Yeah, I know some folk just don't care, but I fear I do, and I must apologize that I want to see this site clean up it's image an not act like a 4chan knockoff.

 

As far as this actual topic goes, only "tulpaforce" and "wonderland" annoy me to a great degree. Tulpaforce sounds like a bad 80s cartoon, and wonderland is just awkward, and mainly applies to Irish's Alice. I prefer mindscape myself, since it's easy to say, describes what's going on, and doesn't bring up imagery of rabbits and red queens. As for tulpaforce, I'd just say building up/creating/working on tulpa would work just as well, and sound less awkward. That's just me, though.

[Purlox]

I think using some of the terms that multiples use isn't bad idea although I certainly prefer mindscape to inner landscape even though both describe the same thing in pretty good ways.

 

(I'll post the list of terms later)