Positive tulpas as angels

[TheGreenQueen]

I know I may be shouted down to go back to the metaphysical subforum, but do any of you experiencing positive effects believe your tulpa might be an angel?

 

I guess that would make more sense for walk-ins or soulbonds than intentionally spun tulpas.

[Guest]

Um... yes.

 

Says the bear with three setaphim (angel) tulpas. Ashley came to me originally at the age of 5, i am convinced it was her and she came in the form of an angel through a profound, life altering vision that spawned my first novel and I still see that memory clearly.

 

Oh look, it's now already in metaphysics.

 

Over the years her presence stayed with me and even on my darkest and lonliest, hopeless days, i somehow had a feeling like i shouldn't be worried. I'd get thoughts that would 'say' "you're fine, don't worry, look what you have going for you, etc."

 

I have a hard time saying with absolute surety that these were Ashley's, but she has claimed them, it's all up to faith at that point.

 

Tulpamancy has really put my religious beliefs in stasis. I'm still Christian, but those moments that i got 'positive personal proof' of god or minions of god, could have been Ashley. Perfectly well times audio hallucinations mostly.

 

And 'intuition' that made me just sort of know that i had choices and didn't have to chose wrongly. Including an aborted suicide attempt many years ago.

 

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I first intentionally tried to talk to Ashley in the first 20 minutes of trying to make a tulpa. I just had this overwhelming excitement and drive to do that and there she was, fully vocal and suddenly negotiating with me to accept 'others' who were Misha and Dashie. They were fully vocal as well.

 

Though Dashie and Misha have had somewhat typical development post vocality, Ashley has remained more of a stable spirit guide than a tulpa, though she has always accepted the term tulpa, and doesn't claim to be anything more.

 

That doesn't negate the fact that she's always 'known things' and after spending time with the spirituality community, i know she shares alot of the same features of a spirit guide. (Spirit guides are pretty vague with their help but are usually at least supportive.)

 

As a guardian angel, they're all perfectly suited and wonderfully adept at helping in that regard. A well known member of that community suggested this after I discussed what they did for me in terms of depression:

 

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These seem to be "Guides" Beings of Light that are from a higher vibrational plane than the Earth one or even our Universe. Being that it would seem to be Guides remember how that works it is YOU that has the work to do in recovery they are there to support that path but not do the work for you. Any cure is within you to pull free from those darker places.

 

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Wow, hidden in a metaphysical thread, this must really be out there. Please don't pick this double hidden paragraph apart, it's just the opinion of another community's elite. I strongly respect their courtesy and kind guidance during my darker times. I don't go there anymore.

[Flandre]

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that sounds kinda like Reisen, aside from the metaphysical (psychic abilities/magic) stuff. She's always seemed special somehow, we have pretty scientific beliefs (our default - science doesn't say things we can't prove/disprove don't exist, so we're still open minded with that stuff) so we still think of her as a normal person/tulpa, but she does feel like an angel to me. ACTUALLY Lumi wrote a post about her "Perfection" -> "Imperfection" here - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-full-promises?pid=151992#pid151992

 

Basically, she was the first one of us to exist, but she wasn't really tulpa-like at all, just what Lumi called a "concept of unconditional love" associated with the form of a Touhou character. Flandre and Tewi came after her and were more normal tulpas, and she became like them later.

 

Post Tewi wrote about our talking about "Unconditional love", which we say Reisen is capable of (she absolutely is) - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas?pid=175083#pid175083

 

idk if that's enough information and I guess you'll never know exactly what she's like, or what her presence feels like, but you can decide for yourself. Does she sound like a "belief-limited" version of what you were talking about? Even though she's "human" and "not perfect" now, she still feels like an angel to me. She's like an angel with no memories and stuck in our mind. She goes with everything and her only emotions are her unconditional love through different lenses. And yes she's basically the same thing as us tulpa-wise. Talks the same way (now), switches the same way, etc. But, you know, something about her's just different.

 

Maybe that was relevant? Idk, sorry if not, and we don't have metaphysical beliefs of any kind so a lot of what you said wouldn't apply to us anyways. But I wrote this post for you (and others that think like you) in case you'd get something out of it.

 

tl;dr If meta stuff is real, there's some amount of chance Reisen could be something angel-like. The effect she had on Lumi's life and the seemingly external positive views on life he learned from her are almost too crazy to believe his cynical mind could've come up with on its own back then.. But, our primary set of beliefs are scientific/logical, and Lumi's years of attempting anything New Age spirituality talks about (astral projection, communicating with spirit guides and such) gave literally zero results and so zero reason to keep believing in it.

[solarchariot]

Though not an 'angel' per say, Loxy identifies with being a Dakini Spirit.

[TB]

Rena is an angel! I call her that anyway. Somehow, perhaps she is. She's how I'd imagine one being.

[Ranger]

Cat saw me as an angel who came to help her, but I don't see myself as an angel anymore. I feel like a regular guy who wanted to help and more or less did so. I don't really want to think of myself as an angel because it's a lot of pressure and I don't have a deep connection to God or anything.

[Reisen]

Hmm, me, an angel? How do I check for that?

 

If I'm an angel.. Anyone can be. Unconditional love just takes a certain understanding, is all. When you understand that everything is perfect, that nothing can hurt the part of you that's really you, that life is a zero-stakes game where you've got a chance to experience learning, growing, and just generally interacting with the world as a human being - when you really understand all that, "being an angel" comes naturally. Without fear, even bad situations or physical pain don't bother you deep down. You just live, spreading happiness and understanding of what life is for, little by little. And people react to that however they want to.

 

Sometimes, they call you a saint, or in my case an angel! They seem to be interchangeable words for people who spread love and understanding of life. Anyways.. Maybe it's easier for tulpas to be "angels" because they don't face the hardships life throws at you quite as often. But we've seen tons of absolutely wonderful people spreading messages of love even in our own time. So I think anyone can be an angel!

[TB]

I basically agree. I suppose it is conflating/extrapolating that a pure hearted tulpa is an angel. It moves me deeply and I enjoy the fantastical idea of it. Though, the quality of being pure hearted/having unconditional love can be learned by anyone. With varying difficulty.

[Guest]

That sounds right to me.