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Couple of questions from this newbie!  Hopefully they don't rate their own thread and I've had a crack at using the search but... well.

 

1 - Are.. there any particularly detailed Wonderland guides?  I know there are guides but so far as I've seen there aren't any even begin to approach the level of detail of the tulpa creation guides.

 

2 - Bit more awkward.. should I make/do I deserve a tulpa?  Setting aside larger moral concerns, which I have seen some neat responses to, I happen to have a chronic-ish condition that while not serious does have a few unpleasant aspects -.-  It feels.. uncomfortable making a friend, only to put them through that.  This ties back to question 1 because.. well, would a wonderland protect them from that, potentially?

 

3 - This one's a real stretch but... Is there - or indeed are there even guides for.. oh how to put it - something a step down from a tulpa?  May or may not be sentient, more like a little companion of simpler mind ala.. oh what's a good example?  The little children's companion drones from science fiction settings like The Culture are all I can think of.  Autonomous, potentially spontaneous... basically 'could be elevated to a tulpa if all goes well', but above the sort of 'remote control' an imaginary friend implies.

 

I apologise for the weird questions!  And the clumsy terminology.  And, well, thanks.

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5 hours ago, Forra said:

1 - Are.. there any particularly detailed Wonderland guides?  I know there are guides but so far as I've seen there aren't any even begin to approach the level of detail of the tulpa creation guides.

This one goes into a lot of details. And you can always check the wonderland section of this thread

 

5 hours ago, Forra said:

2 - Bit more awkward.. should I make/do I deserve a tulpa?  Setting aside larger moral concerns, which I have seen some neat responses to, I happen to have a chronic-ish condition that while not serious does have a few unpleasant aspects -.-  It feels.. uncomfortable making a friend, only to put them through that.  This ties back to question 1 because.. well, would a wonderland protect them from that, potentially?

No idea what condition you're referring to but while a tulpa might feel more sheltered while existing in the back, the condition will still apply to everyone sharing brain. As for whether you should make a tulpa or not, that's something only you can judge.

 

5 hours ago, Forra said:

3 - This one's a real stretch but... Is there - or indeed are there even guides for.. oh how to put it - something a step down from a tulpa?  May or may not be sentient, more like a little companion of simpler mind ala.. oh what's a good example?  The little children's companion drones from science fiction settings like The Culture are all I can think of.  Autonomous, potentially spontaneous... basically 'could be elevated to a tulpa if all goes well', but above the sort of 'remote control' an imaginary friend implies.

There's servitors but they're pretty much just symbolism. You could parrot a thoughtform and make all decisions for them, never acknowledging them as a separate entity, but I am not sure about something that is completely independent while still not turning into a sentient being.

 


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The others are Miri, who's the original host and Akai, but they don't talk much here.

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2 hours ago, Mirichu said:

This one goes into a lot of details. And you can always check the wonderland section of this thread

 

No idea what condition you're referring to but while a tulpa might feel more sheltered while existing in the back, the condition will still apply to everyone sharing brain. As for whether you should make a tulpa or not, that's something only you can judge.

 

There's servitors but they're pretty much just symbolism. You could parrot a thoughtform and make all decisions for them, never acknowledging them as a separate entity, but I am not sure about something that is completely independent while still not turning into a sentient being.

Thanks so much for the reply!  I hope it's okay responding point by point in return...

 

Re 1: I've read Sophie's guide, and looked at the ones linked in the compilation post's Wonderland section!  I guess I was just asking if there was anywhere I might look for even more detail, even if it meant going off-site.  I'm not sure of the best terminology to use on a search engine so even keyword suggestions would be helpful!  .. 'Wonderland guide' predictably turns up things more along the lines of Lewis Carroll study resources.  Sorry, I realise this question's a bit counter-intuitive, but nothing ventured.

 

Re 2: I... guess I just felt a bit guilty whingeing about it to everyone in my second ever post.  Let me rephrase the question: are there any standing opinions or resources with regard to hosting a tulpa when one has a chronic condition of some sort?  Again I realise this is turning into a question of 'is there even more?' though so feel free to dismiss this one.

 

~3: Again, I wasn't specific enough!  I guess I was wondering about a thoughtform one might consider simple, but still potentially sentient.  The example pops to mind now I think of it is something like.. Sumomo, the little miniature persocom from Chobits.  Buuut even as I write this I think this is turning into more of a 'can I make my tulpa like X' question, albeit with a mind to evolving into someone more complex and deep later so... hm.

 

Anyway thanks again for your patience!  .. Really self-conscious.

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1 hour ago, Forra said:

Re 1: I've read Sophie's guide, and looked at the ones linked in the compilation post's Wonderland section!  I guess I was just asking if there was anywhere I might look for even more detail, even if it meant going off-site.  I'm not sure of the best terminology to use on a search engine so even keyword suggestions would be helpful!  .. 'Wonderland guide' predictably turns up things more along the lines of Lewis Carroll study resources.  Sorry, I realise this question's a bit counter-intuitive, but nothing ventured.

Not sure how much detail you want, a wonderland can be as complex as you want but the process boils down to simply imagining a place. If by detail you mean a rich wonderland, then you can look up the term ''worldbuilding'' which is basically creating worlds. It'd just be a matter of creating it and simply using it as wonderland, not much else. I also found about the concept of ''mental (or memory) palace'' but not sure if that'd help.

 

1 hour ago, Forra said:

Re 2: I... guess I just felt a bit guilty whingeing about it to everyone in my second ever post.  Let me rephrase the question: are there any standing opinions or resources with regard to hosting a tulpa when one has a chronic condition of some sort?  Again I realise this is turning into a question of 'is there even more?' though so feel free to dismiss this one.

I found this thread, you can look up keywords 'mental' or 'illness' in the search thingy and sort by 'in content titles only' to see related threads.

 

1 hour ago, Forra said:

~3: Again, I wasn't specific enough!  I guess I was wondering about a thoughtform one might consider simple, but still potentially sentient.  The example pops to mind now I think of it is something like.. Sumomo, the little miniature persocom from Chobits.  Buuut even as I write this I think this is turning into more of a 'can I make my tulpa like X' question, albeit with a mind to evolving into someone more complex and deep later so... hm.

I don't think there's such a thing as a not-quite-sentient tulpa. You can make a very complex character and still have it be non sentient. If you want your tulpa to be X thing, you can make them like that in the beginning, but keep in mind they'll probably deviate to something else as they develop.


Hello, I'm Mirichu, although you can call me Miichu, and I'm the main fronter of this system.

The others are Miri, who's the original host and Akai, but they don't talk much here.

Progress Report and my Art Thread

How long until my host shuts up

________________

Waka Waka x3

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16 hours ago, Mirichu said:

Not sure how much detail you want, a wonderland can be as complex as you want but the process boils down to simply imagining a place. If by detail you mean a rich wonderland, then you can look up the term ''worldbuilding'' which is basically creating worlds. It'd just be a matter of creating it and simply using it as wonderland, not much else. I also found about the concept of ''mental (or memory) palace'' but not sure if that'd help.

 

I found this thread, you can look up keywords 'mental' or 'illness' in the search thingy and sort by 'in content titles only' to see related threads.

 

I don't think there's such a thing as a not-quite-sentient tulpa. You can make a very complex character and still have it be non sentient. If you want your tulpa to be X thing, you can make them like that in the beginning, but keep in mind they'll probably deviate to something else as they develop.

This.. could all be pretty helpful, especially the linked thread.  I feel a bit bad having missed that.

 

EDIT: Oh it focuses on mental illness.. still I'll try again seeing if I can find one about physiological problems.

 

Anyway thanks so much! ><

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