[split] Removing the shout box

[Aarix]

Dont remove the shoutbox, That would be plain dumb. The people that are on it enjoy talking and seeing each other periodically, I sure as he wouldnt shared the moments there in the irc, i promise you this. If you want just hide it if your worried about new memers seeing us branch off

 

Purlox, ive never seen anyone act really unprofessional. Everyone was nice and helpful to me when the irc wasnt.

[Pleeb]

I recall when the forums were down for a few days, when it went back up there was a member posting in the shoutbox saying something like, "I'm glad the shoutbox is back up again! I can't access the IRC at school, and my tulpa talks with her friends in the shoutbox."

 

I've seen other members and tulpae talking with each other in the shoutbox over discussions in IRC, I would like them to comment on here, let us know why the shoutbox is important to you, and why you're using it over the IRC.

 

I would be content with letting the shoutbox stay; if you really wanted, it could be moved to the bottom of the forums instead of the top, idk. Either way, please give your comments on if you want the shoutbox to stay or be removed.

 

PS: Purlox, please create a new thread next time instead of starting a new discussion on another idea in already-existing thread.

[Guest Anonymous]

I like the SB because it isn't as populated as the IRC. Because of that, you can have your question get more exposure. Also, a recent expert from when I just hopped in the shoutbox

+++ GlaD0S has given voice to Jimmy

+++ GlaD0S has given voice to Shoko[Mio|Yuki}

: I would have to agree that she's a huge crybaby

: herro

: Hi Shoko

: mm. Karra's too young for me to even consider a second.

: Hi Shoko

: But yeah Lunette broke into tears when she stabbed me less than in inch deep

: And she started crying harder when I grabbed the sword and made it go further

: why did she stab you

: WHY DID YOU MAKE HER STAB YOU

: Because I asked her to

: WHAT THE FUCK EONART

: Friendly dueling, it sounds like.

: its a part of dueling yo

: THATS RETARDED

: [No it isn't :3]

: Lol, wat?

: There's nothing wrong with friendly dueling. Making a friend burst into tears is questionable, but I dunno.

: SHE DOESNT LIKE DUELING

Also, the shout box has a major feature that I like, the report feature. Moderation in the IRC only happens if the mods are online, and they see the offending text. If they don't, then the offender may get away with it. To counteract the reality of mods having to be other places, Pleeb and others have elected other mods. As of right now, there are 11 idling mods. All those mods can lead to differences in moderation. Which can lead to nazi mods. With the shitbox, you can report a post and it'll be seen by moderation, regardless off whether any mods are online when you report it.

 

Something to note is that someone can only be banned from the shoutbox by an admin, and not by a mod. Which meant that when Kadoh went on his spamming streak, rather than being banned from the SB, he got a 3 day ban.

 

I do like how the shit box has an archive off all the shouts in it, a feature that the IRC is missing. Beefing up the archive with a search function would be cool in my opinion.

[Sands]

That IRC log

 

Jesus, what is it with people wearing their tuppers as badges in their names over there when they're not even talking?

[Yotslot]

I come here for the shoutbox. It's my favorite part of the forums.

 

I like that it's smaller than IRC, (cept when Vice starts stuff and everyone gets in on it) and I like the convenience of it. You get on the forums and bam, there it is.

 

I also like the fact that it isn't moderated as much as the IRC is. Yes, there's a lot of shitshouting, but I don't think many people mind much. At least I don't. I have a much easier time communicating freely in the shoutbox than the IRC, since I don't feel quite so stifled in it. Neither me nor Tealeap can manage to hold a comfortable conversation in the .info IRC channel (or even OT) because of devoice-happy mods and traffic from people I either do not know or don't care about. Typically for us, conversation in the shoutbox is casual and easy, but can be informative when we need it to be, depending on who is lurking around it, and if someone asks a legit tulpa-related question, I've yet to see it ignored.

 

Also, the very manner of communication in the shoutbox is different from the IRC. When someone drops into the shoutbox that's new, they almost always get at least one greeting from somebody, where as in the IRC you can drop in and be completely ignored. Maybe this would change if the shoutbox became as populated as the IRC, but even then, the more compact nature of the box makes it seem more...approachable, I guess.

 

Perhaps it would not leave such a fantastic first-impression on people just getting into the site, but as soon as they look into the forums themselves, or go to the IRC, they won't find things much different.

 

Maybe you could just scooch the shoutbox down to the bottom of the page, instead of the top, or hide it/make it less noticeable, so people won't see unsavory shouts as soon as they come here, if that's what the issue is. But don't get rid of it, please.

[Purlox]

>suggests removing unmoderated, free shoutbox

>says everyone should join nazi channels where everyone gets muted for no reason while moderators themselves break rules

I never said that everyone should join certain channels, maybe you should read the OP again.

 

If anyone wants to join an unofficial channel, then I have nothing against that.

 

Besides, if you go to the shoutbox and ask for help, who ever is eatching the shoutbox will help. New members aren't shunned there either.

Same goes to IRC except more people will probably help the newcomer and they will do it faster.

 

Dont remove the shoutbox, That would be plain dumb. The people that are on it enjoy talking and seeing each other periodically, I sure as he wouldnt shared the moments there in the irc, i promise you this. If you want just hide it if your worried about new memers seeing us branch off

What prevents them from having these moments on IRC? It's just a way of communicating and if they want some place where random people won't disturb them, then they can make their own private channel.

 

Purlox, ive never seen anyone act really unprofessional. Everyone was nice and helpful to me when the irc wasnt.

Can't comment as I don't know to which channel you went, but I think it wasn't the official one.

 

I would be content with letting the shoutbox stay; if you really wanted, it could be moved to the bottom of the forums instead of the top, idk. Either way, please give your comments on if you want the shoutbox to stay or be removed.

Moving it to the bottom of the page seems like a good alternative.

 

PS: Purlox, please create a new thread next time instead of starting a new discussion on another idea in already-existing thread.

Well, my post was a bit indirect reply to the thread, but I didn't expect so many people would discuss it instead of the topic itself.

 

Also, a recent expert from when I just hopped in the shoutbox

I think you copied the wrong thing, because that is certainly from IRC, not from shoutbox.

 

Also, the shout box has a major feature that I like, the report feature. Moderation in the IRC only happens if the mods are online, and they see the offending text. If they don't, then the offender may get away with it. To counteract the reality of mods having to be other places, Pleeb and others have elected other mods. As of right now, there are 11 idling mods. All those mods can lead to differences in moderation. Which can lead to nazi mods. With the shitbox, you can report a post and it'll be seen by moderation, regardless off whether any mods are online when you report it.

You could just message some mod that has low idle time and make them aware of the problem and they will take care of it.

 

I do like how the shit box has an archive off all the shouts in it, a feature that the IRC is missing. Beefing up the archive with a search function would be cool in my opinion.

Almost every IRC client has a logging feature. If your client is missing that and you want it, then you should look for a better one.

[Sands]

I never said that everyone should join certain channels, maybe you should read the OP again.

 

You never said that, but the official channels were what you used against the shoutbox for their "moderated" (read: unvoiced for everything) status.

 

>The official IRC channels are moderated much more unlike the Shoutbox. The almost unmoderated nature of shoutbox makes it a good place for people to post random messages that might make us seem bad...

 

Trust me, hopping in the circlejerkfest that is #.info makes us seem much worse for the newcomers you want to attract than whatever goes in on the shoutbox. The "official" channels are nothing more than hugboxes where you can't voice your opinion without risking a mute for "harassing".

 

Also the unofficial channels aren't listed anywhere, so yes, removing the shoutbox and telling people to join the IRC would be forcing them to join the official ones, as they don't know what other channels there are.

[Christopher Bane]

The shoutbox is one of my favorite parts of the site, it is both a place to socialize and the first place new members come with their questions, please don't remove it. If some new member actually gets scared off by us just dicking around having a good time in the shoutbox, then I honestly won't be sorry to see them go.

[Purlox]

Also the unofficial channels aren't listed anywhere, so yes, removing the shoutbox and telling people to join the IRC would be forcing them to join the official ones, as they don't know what other channels there are.

3 unofficial ones are listed on the Chat page, if you want more, then you could go here.

[Guest]

It's still entertaining to see Mr Purry defend the IRC channels because he's an OP there. This thread has humor and irony in it.