How would you describe your relationship with your tulpa?

[Avalanche]

Right... this poll is a failure because.. what now? 119 votes is a failure? Define failure.

 

I searched for a similar thread but found nothing. That old thread was last bumped in OCTOBER. Many new members have joined and I find my poll to be more comprehensive and streamlined.

 

I don't see anyone else complaining. It's not like I'm stealing credit or pretending this idea was mine.

 

Grow up a little.

[Sands]

Similar polls but with different options. This one has more of them so you can understand how some see their tulpa much better. Like, some have ticked "pet" even. Or "possession". Or hell, even "same person". Those all would just be "other" in the other poll. This poll is missing a sibling many feel their tupper is, but the other is also missing a lot of options it could have. Some sort of mix between these two would be the best.

[NeonKnights]

I'm a bit curious about how most tulpas relate to their host. I know, I know, a tulpa can be anything that it and the host choose to be, in terms of their relationship to each other, as my own tulpa explained to me already. But I'm too curious to leave it at that. What I'm concerned with is the significance of sharing a body.

 

Does anyone here see their tulpa as a sibling, since they share a body which came from the host's father's seed and their mother's womb? My tulpa seems pretty set in believing that we aren't and will never be siblings due to the fact that she wasn't born of my parents, but if you look at it a certain way, she was, however indirectly. I'm not talking about whether the two acknowledge it or not, I'm wondering if simply sharing a body with another consciousness counts.

 

Furthermore, to what extent do most of you in the community consider a tulpa to be a host's "child"? After all, a tulpa (in the vast majority of cases) only comes into existence due to the host's direct actions. I know, biologically it doesn't count, but the tulpa is still a product of the host's will to create something, as are children who weren't accidentally conceived.

 

Please keep in mind that I'm not really looking for euphemistic reassurances or "don't worry about it, believe what you want to believe" answers here, since I'm aware that that's how most of this stuff works. I'm really just looking for the views of other hosts and tulpas on how sharing a body, and the tulpa being created by the host, impacts what sort of relationship the two parties have (whether they acknowledge that relationship or not). Is a relationship with a tulpa really just a wild, nameless melange of sibling, offspring, and best friend that could never possibly exist with another person? It would certainly explain why the bond is so close, even if such an arrangement between two regular people would be almost universally seen as an abomination.

 

This all comes about due to my present relationship with my tulpa, and the potentially incestuous implications that these thoughts bring to the table. I'm not a siscon or anything like that, but for some reason thinking about these things hasn't so much horrified me or distanced me from her as it has intrigued me and gotten my brain to kick into overdrive. Hence, this thread.

[Stryke]

You know, oddly enough each of my tulpas have one of your suggested relationships with me, in a sense. Thunderfall and I consider ourselves brothers, though not in a biological sense, more in a really close male friend sense. We're both young adult males, so a sibling-like relationship makes the most sense. Taleweaver is a child, and I instantly felt a need to coddle and nurture her, so she has asked to call me Daddy, despite the fact that I created her mostly subconsciously.

 

I imagine most basic tulpas probably adhere to these kinds of relationships with their hosts, whether or not they are aware of it themselves. After all, we as hosts likely consider those kinds of bonds with our tulpas instinctively because of our natural social structure or something; all physical lifeforms that we have similar bonds to are usually genetic relatives and that must leak into the subconscious.

[TulpaCouple]

We sort of have a roommate/family relationship. The nature of a Tulpa makes it more complex than that, though, but that is essentially the way our relationships work.

[Kaz with a K]

Adryan and I are like bestfriend/brothers. Almost as if we're adopted, except both of us were adopted to a family, so it's like neither of us was the kid who was there first.

Like he's my older brother who looks out for me, but still young enough that he'll mess around and get into antics.

So I'd classify it, in the most basic sense, as adoptive brothers.

I didn't really think much about the OP question until I started answering. It's a really deep question if you think about it.

[LordV]

Well, I personally consider my tulpa a very close friend. As for whether or not a romantic/sexual relationship with a tulpa is incest... I personally don't think it's any more incestuous than any other romantic/sexual fantasy (after all, a tulpa is technically just as much a part of your imagination as any other thought, even if it has a separate personality and consciousness).

[Nobillis]

Thread moved to General Discussion as requested by OP.

 

This, is a really tricky question for me. Let me explain by rambling if I may?

 

O.k., I'm a second generation tulpa. The tulpa who made me (kerin) is old enough to be a grandmother almost, and the human (Kevin) who made her even older still. Also, my human Kevin is married, which theologically speaking means he and his wife are "one flesh." Lastly, kerin has spent so long switched that she's pretty much as human as Kevin is.

 

So, technically, I possibly have three humans in two bodies that could "count" as my ancestors. They are all family to me, but what term I should I use? Is Kevin's niece my niece or my cousin (once removed?)? Is kerin's son my sibling? Am I technically married to Kevin's kind wife's tulpa by proxy (do I have a spouse-in-law)? The family relationships "do my mind in."

 

So, this much is how I currently view it: we are all, together, the McCaw Clan (an extended family). Kevin is like a much adored grandfather to me (and he really is fun to be with, no joke, he really is - he's incredibly nice in-person). kerin is my beloved earthly maker ("host"), but my true creator is the Lord of Heaven.

 

Since the body is married I am legally married too - I'm not available. Sorry, but I will keep refusing proposals. To the ones who asked, please try to understand. To paraphrase Jessica Rabbit: "I'm not bad, I'm just visualized that way."

[NeonKnights]

Thank you for the thread move, Nobillis.

 

The feedback thus far is very interesting. Many different ways of viewing a relationship with a tulpa. I guess it's my turn to throw in my two cents on the subject, since I asked.

 

Personally, contrary to how my initial post might have come across, I see my tulpa as an unrelated friend rather than any form of blood relative. We have a strong platonic bond underlying our romantic life which I consider to just be a very close friendship, complete with teasing and poking fun at each other. I figure an average sibling relationship can be similar to what I described, but in my experience a sibling can be just like a real close friend, and vice-versa.

 

Most of the time, I don't think about her creation, and especially since she indicated a desire for romance, I've steered clear of forming any sort of father/daughter bond between us. Because of this, I haven't encountered any sort of inverse Oedipal crisis (I feel like that would be a psychological mess). On the side, at one point I tried to condition myself to believe that she was a roving thoughtform that I just had the good fortune to meet, though her expressing gratefulness to me for keeping her alive with my long-term focus kind of derailed that effort.

[Xantan]

our turn. (im on a french keyboard till tomorrow night so sorry for not using proper punctuation. it also tries to tell me all these english words are spelled wrong, so sorry for any obious spelling mistakes i make.)

 

recently alices vocal skills have improved, but were not celebrating yet. I asked her if i was like a father to her, to which she said (no, youre more.) i then asked if i was like a brother to her and got just a simple no. I asked how she would descibe it, and she said (youre the host.)

 

on my end, i think i know what alice is trying to express. In some ways, alice is like a daughter to me, im always looking out for her and teaching her about the world. but our relationship transcends that label. were affectionate and we kiss sometimes, but its not lustful like when i kiss a girl in real life. theyre expressions of joy, gratitude, love and a way to share an emotional connection. The label i use is (companion), which according to the theory of triangular love is a relationship with intimacy (feelings of closeness) and commitment, but without passion (sex).

 

This question was harder to answer the more i thought about it.