Other tulpamancers

[Guest Anonymous]

 

[Kevin (a human) says: I made a tulpa before the internet was. There were things back then called books, and I read one about tulpas. The chances are pretty good that others will have seen such books too since the first was published in 1901 in London. Also some Tibetans still teach how to make tulpas, and this has been the case in their society for much more then a hundred years. So, worldwide the numbers could still be high even amongst those with no internet access.

 

Still, the conclusion remains the same - possibly less then 1 in a million will have a tulpa.

 

Edit: I've said before, my brother has "wolves" that are similar to my "watchdog" tulpas.]

 

Do you remember how the book was called? I would really like to read it.

 

Also I'm not too sure how much the tibetans contribute to these numbers, surely there still have to be various tibetan tulpamancers, but I don't think it is a very widespread thing.

Does anyone know how common this practice actually is in tibet?

[Flexionsensor]

I constantly suspect people around me of having tulpae... Because I am delusional...

[jean-luc]

Everyone you suspect, you should ask.

[Ginyu]

That feel when you might be the only tulpamancer in the state/country you live in.

 

It feels horrible. ;_;

[tania]

I seriously think that people in this community are far too loose with the term "tulpa".

There are a lot of people here that seem to be under the impression that most children's imaginary friends ended up being tulpas, and I think that's ridiculous.

I don't believe I've ever heard of someone who had an imaginary friend who actually talked back to them. That would be something you'd definitely remember.

Not to mention, children's imaginary friends end up dissipating because the child grows up, and doesn't want to live in an imaginary, make-believe world anymore. If the imaginary friend actually talked to them, they would become kind of hard to ignore.

Hell, there are people here claiming that they can't get rid of a tulpa they've had for a couple months.

 

Obviously, some people's imaginary friends have turned into a tulpa. That is apparent if you've been on this site for more than half an hour. But I think far too many people think that it is likely to happen, and does often.

If I had to guess, I'd say that maybe 1/50 imaginary friends become tulpas. If that.

 

This would be a very easy to do great study thou of cause the children would have to be studied over time to see what percent actually did manage to keep their imaginary friends.. and just cause the friend stops talking.. it doesnt necessarily mean it hadnt been a Tulpa.

 

I think many imaginary friends do in fact talk back. Ive heard of children saying "such and such told me to do this" and accusing their imaginary friends. I used to see my own daughter having talks with her imaginary friend in a way in which it appeared she must of been having a real convo with it and hearing replies back (she had one for many years and for all I know she may of kept it.. I never asked her if it was gone). Pity she isnt speaking to me so I cant ask her about it.

 

I told my sister the other day about my new Tulpa (she's the second person in my real life Ive told other then the healers I sought out when I ran into problems with my first Tulpa).

 

Anyway her 11 year old son was in the back seat of the car when I told her and he suddenly piped up about his imaginary friend he has (he was obviously bursting to tell someone about it). My sister turned around annoyed at him and said "you were supposed to forget him a few years ago, I thought you didnt see or talk to him any more!!". Turned out he's been for past few years talking to his friend in secret and hiding it due to the disproval of my sister.

 

I cant wait to pull him aside (where sister wont know) and ask him more eg does his imaginary friend speak to him? I think its a common thing for parents of children who have imaginary to strongly discourage this once the children reach a certain age where they are deemed too old to be playing with their imaginary friends all the time. So many of these children like my nephew are probably continuing on with thier imaginary friends... probably till they get to the age where they feel uncomfortable about their halluncinations and choose to then ignore them, this would then cause the Tulpas to become silent after a while.

 

I assume many of these would be Tulpas as it is doubtful if you are putting attention onto something for years and treating it like its real.. that it wont in fact become a Tulpa. The likihood of it being real is probably more then the likihood that it wont esp since children dont have the hangups on what is real and not like adults do.

 

It hasnt come up in this thread but there are certain occultic groups, various Wiccian groups etc who do things like make Tulpas (they call them something else thou).. so this whole idea isnt limited to the Tibetians out there. (I think Dion Fortune mentioned about Tulpas in one of his/her books but didnt use term Tulpa). Worldwide there are many groups doing this but its info they dont at all share except with their own members. (so these arent likely to tell you they have one thou they are out there).

 

So if one wanted to try to do a study to count the likely people who may have one.. one would have to guesstimate members of those occultic groups. Hence we can never know the true percent of how many people have Tulpas (as those in those groups often keep it secret they are even in groups such as this).

 

Anyway.. Ive seen mention of Tulpas (but calling them by a different name) in two different occult books over the years thou they didnt give instructions on how to make them. So people are definately getting info and doing these in those circles too (im not sure why just the Tibetian group get mentioned when it comes to Tulpas as this has been going on worldwide for a very long time not just there).

 

Doesnt the Rosecusians (not sure if I have the spelling right).. doesnt their group also have this knowledge which it would be sharing with its members? If Im remembering right it does. So you'd have to include a percentage of their members too.

[Malix]

One of my best friends turned out to have a tulpa, and a fully functioning wonderland he regularly lucid dreams into to boot.

Though he had no idea what a tulpa was, and he did in fact keep it secret from me for a few years. He only mentioned it a few months after I told him about mine(at her urging), but apparently she's been with him since he was a kid. Turns out he'd been relaying her words semi-often, so I'd talking to both of them for years without realising it.

 

There is also someone else I only recently met who...may be in the process of accidentally creating one.

[Kiahdaj]

 

This would be a very easy to do great study thou of cause the children would have to be studied over time to see what percent actually did manage to keep their imaginary friends.. and just cause the friend stops talking.. it doesnt necessarily mean it hadnt been a Tulpa.

 

I think many imaginary friends do in fact talk back. Ive heard of children saying "such and such told me to do this" and accusing their imaginary friends. I used to see my own daughter having talks with her imaginary friend in a way in which it appeared she must of been having a real convo with it and hearing replies back (she had one for many years and for all I know she may of kept it.. I never asked her if it was gone). Pity she isnt speaking to me so I cant ask her about it.

 

I told my sister the other day about my new Tulpa (she's the second person in my real life Ive told other then the healers I sought out when I ran into problems with my first Tulpa).

 

Anyway her 11 year old son was in the back seat of the car when I told her and he suddenly piped up about his imaginary friend he has (he was obviously bursting to tell someone about it). My sister turned around annoyed at him and said "you were supposed to forget him a few years ago, I thought you didnt see or talk to him any more!!". Turned out he's been for past few years talking to his friend in secret and hiding it due to the disproval of my sister.

 

I cant wait to pull him aside (where sister wont know) and ask him more eg does his imaginary friend speak to him? I think its a common thing for parents of children who have imaginary to strongly discourage this once the children reach a certain age where they are deemed too old to be playing with their imaginary friends all the time. So many of these children like my nephew are probably continuing on with thier imaginary friends... probably till they get to the age where they feel uncomfortable about their halluncinations and choose to then ignore them, this would then cause the Tulpas to become silent after a while.

 

I assume many of these would be Tulpas as it is doubtful if you are putting attention onto something for years and treating it like its real.. that it wont in fact become a Tulpa. The likihood of it being real is probably more then the likihood that it wont esp since children dont have the hangups on what is real and not like adults do.

 

It hasnt come up in this thread but there are certain occultic groups, various Wiccian groups etc who do things like make Tulpas (they call them something else thou).. so this whole idea isnt limited to the Tibetians out there. (I think Dion Fortune mentioned about Tulpas in one of his/her books but didnt use term Tulpa). Worldwide there are many groups doing this but its info they dont at all share except with their own members. (so these arent likely to tell you they have one thou they are out there).

 

So if one wanted to try to do a study to count the likely people who may have one.. one would have to guesstimate members of those occultic groups. Hence we can never know the true percent of how many people have Tulpas (as those in those groups often keep it secret they are even in groups such as this).

 

Anyway.. Ive seen mention of Tulpas (but calling them by a different name) in two different occult books over the years thou they didnt give instructions on how to make them. So people are definately getting info and doing these in those circles too (im not sure why just the Tibetian group get mentioned when it comes to Tulpas as this has been going on worldwide for a very long time not just there).

 

Doesnt the Rosecusians (not sure if I have the spelling right).. doesnt their group also have this knowledge which it would be sharing with its members? If Im remembering right it does. So you'd have to include a percentage of their members too.

 

Of course kids blame things on their imaginary friends. That's what kids do. They don't have a sibling? Then their imaginary friend did it.

That's just what kids do.

 

Also, you have to realize that kids have an extremely strong imagination, and tend to like to lose themselves in it. They will act as though they are having an actual conversation by making up what would be said back to them.

Also, there's no way you'd be able to ask a young child whether or not their imaginary friend talks back to them, and have them say no. Because that breaks the whole illusion for them. They want to live in their imagination.

Also, just because you feel like you're getting a response, doesn't mean you are. I can literally have a conversation with my own brain. It will automatically come up with a response for any question I ask it. Anything. The same surely happens for children, and they might mistake it for being their friend.

Hell, I used to confuse my brain for my tulpa all the time.

[Oguigi]

I know one person IRL with a tulpa.

 

I have told 2 of my host brothers, and one of them have a very young and suppressed tulpa (so i won't count him)

[tania]

 

Also, there's no way you'd be able to ask a young child whether or not their imaginary friend talks back to them, and have them say no. Because that breaks the whole illusion for them. They want to live in their imagination.

Also, just because you feel like you're getting a response, doesn't mean you are. I can literally have a conversation with my own brain. It will automatically come up with a response for any question I ask it. Anything. The same surely happens for children, and they might mistake it for being their friend.

Hell, I used to confuse my brain for my tulpa all the time.

 

Yeah that's true and I hadnt thought of that.. they could say yes when their own brain is answering them back. Thanks for pointing that one out as I will question my nephew more carefullly about his imaginary friend when I have a chance to do so and see if I can find out if there is evidence that its more then his own brain answering him back eg completely unexpected answers coming back surprising/shocking him.

[jean-luc]

I think that if you talk to someone for years, they're going to become sentient. Like, guaranteed.