White Light May 13, 2013 May 13, 2013 I quite like the term "Servitor", Egregore, and such, however it's the word "tulpa" that bugs me. I personally interpret "tulpa" as the topic in which sigil, servitor, egregore and godform lie. To me, a Sigil is the creation of "add-ons" on one's own subconscious - such as how if you tell yourself "I am happy" every morning and every night, after a while you'd start being happy and generally believing it. This is a well-known and documenated phenomenon, and I'm sure it's highly relevant to the tulpa phenomenon. For now though, I call this method the creation of a "Sigil". A Servitor, to me, is a servant mindform - you create an additional thoughtform, however the two thought processes are directly linked, always, resulting in a servitor, which essentially acts as a nonsentient servant to the host. I find the name 'servitor' quite apt for this. Then you have a tulpa, which is only in its youngest stages connected to the host, essentially acting as an umbilical cord. We feed the tulpa thoughts, emotions, informations and love until they can sustain themselves, and are 'born' into the world when they no longer require a direct link with the host to process and interpret everything. It's essential to note down that the tulpa phenomenon is a modification of the mind, essentially - it's treating the mind as hardware that addons can be applied to, and through this context it can be modified in every possible fashion, whether we know it or not, through the thoughtform. To me, it sounds like the term for the type of thoughtform, tulpa, as-is is already fitting. However, to address the phenomenon in itself, which is what we're looking for here, "cogitatio duplicātum" I find fitting - latin for "thought double."
cruse May 14, 2013 May 14, 2013 Let's just drop the Latin and go with English. Chloe - That cheerful girl with ponytail. Aigis - The male cyborg that looks like raiden in MGR. Vixen - Half dragon female who looks like Mary in DMC3 when in human form.
tania May 14, 2013 May 14, 2013 Metaegoaston was the combination of "metaego" and "aston". It isn't a serious word. Jesse smiled at your new word. He's quite amused by it. I see servitors as being more then just a "shell", shells dont do anything.. to me they are more like robots as they do only what they are programmed to do and nothing else. It thou wouildnt sound good to call them "mind robots", servitors is the best name for those as it fits well. Wonderland.. well that is a term I truely dislike, its so poxy, the creator of that term should be shot (only kidding!!). I dont think that term will last in any Tulpa communities as it will surely end up being called something else. Mindscape sounds good. To me.. the wonderland is also a state of the mind. As Im not visual I dont see it but I can get myself into the state of it and feel it (Im not refering to feeling tactilly but in another way). Im currently calling Jesse's wonderland just "Jesseland" cause I so dont like that wonderland term. Jesse (human male) DOB 16th April 2013 Working on imposition
White Light May 14, 2013 May 14, 2013 Let's just drop the Latin and go with English. Any recommendations then? The idea of another language is to express a literal meaning and to make it a pure name for the specific term. Many nouns in the English language are derived from literal Latin meaning, such as 'cognitive' is derived from 'cognito'. Tulpa is not English, either - whatever we do, unless we find some ingenius combination, for it to become a new English name it's best to derive it from some kind of Latin word. (e.g. the name Joshua is derived from the Hebrew name 'Yehoshua', which means 'Savior', or 'Deliverer' - so the name basically takes a meaning or couple of words from another language and Englishifies them.)
left blank May 14, 2013 May 14, 2013 Quick question: How deeply has anyone here dug into psychological terminology? I'm fairly confident that many psychologists, psychiatrists and psychanalysts have collectively provided a dense vocabulary to draw upon. The phenomenon discussed and practiced on this page/forum doesn't seem unknown to psychology. I ask because if the reputation of this community is intended to be one of an almost clinical approach (again, correct me if I'm wrong), it would seem useful to employ preexisting or established language. Otherwise I think the whole idea may be dismissed as occult. (For example "servitor" tends to conjure images of Satanic rituals for those who aren't privy to its origins). I've seen a few nods to Carl Jung here and there, which, in my opinion, isn't a bad start. And before I forget again: 25¢ well spent. That was very well put together. A few more appreciated dimes in my busker hat! Thank you.
cruse May 14, 2013 May 14, 2013 Any recommendations then? The idea of another language is to express a literal meaning and to make it a pure name for the specific term. Many nouns in the English language are derived from literal Latin meaning, such as 'cognitive' is derived from 'cognito'. Tulpa is not English, either - whatever we do, unless we find some ingenius combination, for it to become a new English name it's best to derive it from some kind of Latin word. (e.g. the name Joshua is derived from the Hebrew name 'Yehoshua', which means 'Savior', or 'Deliverer' - so the name basically takes a meaning or couple of words from another language and Englishifies them.) You did say it meant "thought double" so there you go. Chloe - That cheerful girl with ponytail. Aigis - The male cyborg that looks like raiden in MGR. Vixen - Half dragon female who looks like Mary in DMC3 when in human form.
Lacquer May 14, 2013 Author May 14, 2013 I quite like the term "Servitor", Egregore, and such, however it's the word "tulpa" that bugs me. I personally interpret "tulpa" as the topic in which sigil, servitor, egregore and godform lie. To me, a Sigil is the creation of "add-ons" on one's own subconscious - such as how if you tell yourself "I am happy" every morning and every night, after a while you'd start being happy and generally believing it. This is a well-known and documenated phenomenon, and I'm sure it's highly relevant to the tulpa phenomenon. For now though, I call this method the creation of a "Sigil". A Servitor, to me, is a servant mindform - you create an additional thoughtform, however the two thought processes are directly linked, always, resulting in a servitor, which essentially acts as a nonsentient servant to the host. I find the name 'servitor' quite apt for this. Then you have a tulpa, which is only in its youngest stages connected to the host, essentially acting as an umbilical cord. We feed the tulpa thoughts, emotions, informations and love until they can sustain themselves, and are 'born' into the world when they no longer require a direct link with the host to process and interpret everything. It's essential to note down that the tulpa phenomenon is a modification of the mind, essentially - it's treating the mind as hardware that addons can be applied to, and through this context it can be modified in every possible fashion, whether we know it or not, through the thoughtform. To me, it sounds like the term for the type of thoughtform, tulpa, as-is is already fitting. However, to address the phenomenon in itself, which is what we're looking for here, "cogitatio duplicātum" I find fitting - latin for "thought double." Whoa, pardner, getting pretty metaphysical there. We all feel uncomfortable using the term "host". It implies something parasitic in nature. Which for some reason just seems very distasteful. Yeah, but it seems like no one has ever made up a word that fits it properly enough. Quick question: How deeply has anyone here dug into psychological terminology? The OP has a link to psych prefixes, suffixes, and root words. I've seen a few nods to Karl Jung here and there, which, in my opinion, isn't a bad start. *Carl (for future reference. If he pops up as much as you say, you might be using his name again)
Strider090 May 14, 2013 May 14, 2013 Why do some people use tupper anyways? I imagine there was some slightly mentally challenged guy who made a youtube video showing his "tulpa" (IOW: pointing the camera at nothing) and due to his speech impediment, he says tupper instead of tulpa and now it's like a big joke. TLDR; saying tupper makes you sound retarded. Host: Derm Tulpa: {Drais} (In progress) My Tumblr
Chupi May 14, 2013 May 14, 2013 "Tupper" is a Fedeism from last spring when this community was on 4chan. Lyra: human female, ~17 Evan: boy, ~14, was an Eevee Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her My blog :: Time expectations are bad (forcing time targets are good though)
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