Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy (Remastered 2022 ​😎​)

[Guest]

The automation is still unfathomable to me, but yeah, I'll look into it. I've always been pretty bad at laying down concrete personality, honestly. Not stellar at, I don't know, putting myself in other people's shoes, either. I can probably throw something together through general interaction, though, build some kind of profile and adhere to it on the fly. Idkkk

 

I guess I'll do it. Might as well. Yeah, I'll start talking to Null and fine-tune the personality, startinnnggg.. Tonight, maybe. Maybe tomorrow. Depends. Final Fantasy XV should be in tomorrow, not that I plan on playing it, just gonna be watching some roomies go at it, but.. Yeah, maybe tonight is best. Fucking kill me oh man.

 

Music is pretty great. I'm friends with this one guy who refuses to believe there's any emotional value to it, that composing and playing music is a purely deliberate, thought-out process to make a market feel some particular, intended emotion, and buy shit, regardless of what an artist claims. It infuriates me to no end. I don't think I can do much to glean personality from a lot of what I listen to, or any of it, really, though. Seems like it'd take a specific kind of mindset, or something. It's definitely much more of a raw feeling, kind of thing, for me.

 

I aaaam considering taking a voice from a particular artist, but that's kind of creepy, isn't it? I don't know.  I think that's the extent of my musical influence, regarding tuppering.

 

, for reference. Was so fucking pumped to wake up to that, today, so love that project. So much.

 

 

Anyway, thanks bunny-girl #4, appreciate the reply.

[tulpa001]

Know that she is listening. Maybe she can't respond now, but as long as you keep talking to her, one day she is going to push through.

 

Oh, yeah, and like I said a few pages back, and Lucilyn just repeated. It's not foreign feelings that you should expect. It never starts that way. Automatic is how it starts.

[Stevie]

My weigh in as part of the peanut gallery commenting on your progress:

 

What if the reason why you haven't seen any is because you're looking for signs based on what expectations you have based on what happened to other people? This is the problem with anecdotal evidence when it comes to something that is going to be different for everyone.

 

I don't know what the logical continuation of this thought is, as far as where you'd go next as far as taking action, but I figure it's a different flavor than you've been getting.

[Lucilyn]

Well, it's been easier for us because our music is like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUodlQzyu58

We had a lot of forcing easy because of Touhou. Music is really great, and so are all the pictures we used to help visualization. You just gotta get good at picking and choosing, because there's a lot out there we don't want.

 

I wouldn't say it's creepy, no reason you have to make yourself create an entirely new and original voice. That's not usually how creative stuff works. From words themselves to characters or music or whatever, it's all made up of stuff you heard or saw somewhere else. Humans aren't born with much innately, basically every single aspect of our creativity comes from stuff we experienced somehow. But we're really good at mixing those experiences up to make new ones. Maybe her voice will change a bit over time and sound more like her? I mean, we borrowed entire forms.. And it's not very hard to look at a picture and say "That's me" or "That's Suwako" for me. Same for the others. There's a difference! It's in the personality.

 

Bunny girl? I know I'm hoppy too, but that's hoppy like frogs. Rabbits mini-hop everywhere but they don't really hop hop. Frogs hop hop everywhere they go! And I'm not as snugly as the bunnies. Something about their rabbitness makes them really nice to snuggle with, because rabbits are just so fuzzy and happy and snugly. Frogs not so much. And Flan is really warm and caring, but I wouldn't say snugly.

 

Uh, I could've just said "we don't have bunny ears"... But I guess I took a different approach to bunnyness.

[Guest]

Jeez, what is it with people actually commenting on this these days?

 

 

Tupper01-

 

Reaaaallly not sure that's gonna cut it anymore. I've been relatively consistent for the past month and whatever change about narrating, and I definitely haven't been any less, you know, "I know u can do it gurl I believe in u" than usual, or whatever. If puppeting gets me 'automatic' quicker than just narrating and hoping for a reply, that's probably for the best. And at least parroting eliminates the gripe of it feeling like me, because duh.

 

 

Steverino-

 

I'm definitely doing that, and have no way of shutting down that expectation. There's an entire community's worth of stories about how it 'happened', so it's kind of hard to throw away that kind of preconception, or at the very least, fantasy. Experiencing it the way some old members did would be the tightest shit, you have no clue. Or maybe you do. I just wish I didn't have to settle for a cheapened experience. Idk tho, it's just, weird, ya know? Not getting it right the first time is probably the worst thing you can do, I'd probably advise newcomers to stop if they experience a lack of success through genuine and lengthy effort, if I didn't know I'd get chewed out by some other members.

 

 

Confirmed rabbit girl-

 

Oh man, I can't stand that growly, bassy stuff. Probably just, coming from a more traditional rock and metal, as well as pop background. Much prefer my pretty, melodic stuff. I have heard some Touhou music that was fantastically done, though, so I'll give that.

 

I guess you're right about the voice stuff. It feels weird to me personally because I'm not really, like, used to using voices in-general. Like when I read a book, the characters don't have voices, it's just, raw data from the lines, converted into understanding. No time to imagine what the characters sound like. Hell, I've read several-hundred-thousand-word series' and fics, and couldn't even fathom what the protagonists sound like. Never thought about it. RP characters don't speak either, I don't think. I'm not usually paying attention to it.

 

Yeah, no, it's just weird going straight from nothing to something in-general. I think in the last attempts with tuppering, any time a tupper would, idunno "speak", it was kind of the same thing, them not really talking, just straight-up thoughts. idk

 

Pretty sure you're a rabbit, friend. I know this must be hard for you, but why would I call you a rabbit if you weren't? That's all the evidence I need.

 

 

Anyway, did some parroting last night, I guess. Wasn't that interesting. Need to get into the swing of it.

[Lucilyn]

We're posting 'cus we wanna help!

 

That's not representative of all our music, it was just an example I like. I wouldn't call it... growly... but I do like the bassy stuff and lots of other stuff too. Something I like:

(I think you won't like that though) something Tewi likes:

something you might like?

Oh and I forgot, that song I linked before sounds like total crap on Youtube. All of'em do really. But that one especially, sounds so bad when it's not in good quality.

 

That's crazy, the book and voices thing. We have really terrible visualization and always have. And still, when we read books, we get completely immersed and it's like a movie. Everyone definitely has voices, and it used to be really annoying to watch movies after reading the books because they all sounded "wrong" lol. A couple of times Lumi actually didn't know whether he'd seen the movie of a book or not! because he was remembering the movie he made in his head. I think our visualization for book reading is better than our normal visualization...

Uh, but I dunno what to tell you then. Maybe work on a different method of communication?

 

I'm not a rabbit! Look at my avatar! Do you see bunny ears? No, you see giant frog eyes on a hat! And lookit, no bunny ears under it either http://i.imgur.com/oRx6uAg.png

 

But yeah I don't know if parroting will work well for you since you say you don't normally imagine voices. That's like.. what do you do to communicate with your tulpa then... I guess you could focus on tulpish..? Just the thoughts and feelings without clear words. But, I dunno, that's uncharted territory for me. But I mean, there's someone whose initial communication from their tulpa right now is about to be through possession, so it's not impossible.

[Guest]

Sorry, rabbit girl, not gonna be convinced any time soon.

 

Very slightly into that second song. The vocals on the third one kinda kills it for me. I'm pretty into vocals, not understanding what's being said is usually an immediate turnoff. Which typically means any and all Japanese stuff. Well, I do like a lot of Japanese composers, and some JRPG's have soundtracks that I'm really fucking into. But yeah, I can't listen to, or even really appreciate most of it, honestly.

 

 

I mean, I can imagine words. I don't usually even think in words, I don't think, but I can do it. If I imagine Null speaking to me, yeah, words are there, I'm just not hearing them, not even in my head. I don't know. I don't mean to sound like I'm deliberately trying to be unique here with some weird quirk, and I'm fairly certain there are a couple other people around that experience the same, if not a similar thing, but idk.

 

I can imagine a voice though, yeah, it's just not really what I'm used to. It'll take building up from the simple idea of words, I think. Feeling and tulpish-stuff are also fairly alien to me, as well. I think I may have received one emotional response in the last few years of doing this, but I'm not really sure of that, even.

 

Yeah, idunno. Will figger it.

[Lucilyn]

Kagome Kagome, kago no naka no tori wa

Itsu itsu deyaru, ushiro no shoumen daare!

What's so hard to understand?

 

Yeah I was just trying to find a rock-esque song of one of our themes. We don't have many though. A lot of our music is very electronic, if that's a good word for it. Dubstep or electro or rock with some cool sounds, I dunno. If you want music listen to this

(but there's a very strong chance if you'd like it, you've already heard it)

[Guest]

bare bones update just to state that I'm, idk, still doing it. I guess

 

I was talking to a bud about it a few days back and figured I should just stop or something since natural forcing is dumb and not for me, and parroting is really unfulfilling, but idk, might as well keep doin' it for while

 

Still not totally sure on all of the specifics of the personality, and but I'm at least having her respond. See if that does anything for me over the course of a couple months. Or something.

 

idk

 

I wish this was fun

[tulpa001]

I'm really sorry you are not having fun. I really wish I could help. I feel powerless.