Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy (Remastered 2022 ​😎​)

[sushi]

I'm way behind on this thread. Not even sure how far behind I am. But I've listens to the tulpaudcast, which helped a bit. Making more progress these days?

[timethief]

Basically, he's now experiencing some sort of communication but he shuts it down sometimes because >parrotnoia or whatever.

Null has a form now, and he's trying to work on the wonderland more. In three of his words, fun fun fun.

 

Keep going at it yo, we're all watching.

[Guest]

I'm incredibly familiar with what intentional parroting feels like, and I do still get that

 

But there are the other responses that don't really give me that feeling, so that's keeping me going at least. Still haven't engaged in any real conversations. She's definitely said a couple things, but especially after a bit of my weekend escapades, I've found that I'm definitely still having trouble with it. Not sure what I should be doing to knock it off, though.

 

Just, hope it eventually stops, I guess.

 

But yeah, as I supposedly say, fun fun fun.

 

Nothing major to update either way. Not doing as much as I should be, getting distracted by other things (like the piano aaahhh), and also sleep.

 

I'll establish some kind of respectable work-ethics some day.

[Guest]

I feel pretty lame

 

I've been sitting down with Null to watch shows and stuff at night (Even if it's kinda hard to pay her a whole lot of attention), and I've still been sitting in with her for fifteen or so minutes before bed, but not much else. We've had one or two brief conversations, but I'm still too afraid of finding out that she's not capable of anything more than "Yep", "No", and 'I'm not really sure"-type stuff to go too much into it. Maybe it is just parroting, and I just have to go for it, and wade through the lame, very easily dismissed stuff.

 

I wish there was something more interesting for us to do in the wonderland. It's a lot of walking around and nothing else

 

I suck at being fun

 

I'll try to talk to her at work today

[Stevie]

I wouldn't say that Null not saying much more that affirmative, negative, whatever single point answers mean you're parroting. I'd say maybe it means she's not used enough to talking yet to put together more complex things, and it's like, a mental muscle she has to flex.

 

We play paintball in the wonderland but maybe that's not your bag.

 

Anyway man it's good to see that you're doing good with progress and shit.

[Guest]

Yeah, I mean, it could be anything. Could honestly just be the age-old idea of "I'm just translating her intent and thoughts into words, and that's why it feels so much like me". Maybe those odd moments where it doesn't seem so fake are actually bits of Null making it to the top? Whatever helps me sleep, anyway, ahaha. It'd also help to explain why I have to be engaged in her before she really says anything.

 

Whatever

 

It's going aight. Good moments, bad moments, and everything in between. I'm still getting stuff about her form figured out, and trying to figure out what she is and isn't into. She doesn't seem to get too beat up about me ignoring her for most of the day, thankfully, but apparently reading wikis for shows we're currently watching is totally out of the question. Like, we started watching Dexter, and through mutual and morbid curiosity, figured we'd power through the grossness of it all--- I thought I had the season-1 ending figured out and thought it couldn't hurt to finish it up with a synopsis before going to bed, as I couldn't be up any later to finish the episodes. Yeah, she got a bit upset. I felt pretty bad about that, but the experience was probably good for me.

 

I'll try to get a better bead on her eventually, might help both of us if we can understand what makes her tick, why she says the things that she does. It's like she's been going through different phases of slightly varying personality, like she doesn't really know who she is, yet. Or something. I don't know.

 

We'll get there eventually.

[Guest]

Things are moving backwards, and I'm not sure why.

 

I'm thinking less and less about doubts, and what-ifs, just taking Null's apparent speech in stride, but, fuck. It's like it's becoming more and more 'me' by the day. What gives? All fine and dandy, and then a few days ago, everything she says is just, less real, and more of that feeling I get when I'm imagining someone talking.

 

Should I just ignore that? I don't know how. Not sure why all of the faith and encouragement I've got isn't as good as the next person's. A lot of talk on sentience, and the subjectivity of it all, lately, and there's always the overwhelming notion that it's only as real as you're willing to believe it is

 

I'm starting to think that's just something people who are built to do this say so that they don't have to believe people can screw up at this, even with the best mindset they can take on. Or something.

 

I don't know, this sucks. It's like Null's not even here, right now, and I don't know why. Like, I can look at her, and talk to her, but she's so hollow. Maybe this is how it's been since I moved into visuals, and speech, and I've just been trying to ignore it.

 

 

This sucks.

[Devinostrata]

Gennie's thoughts: A good scream or two will wake you up.

 

She has a a sort of pre-recorded growl like scream, it's kind of weird but it gets my attention. I think it's a memory from Left4Dead involving the witches.

 

When I was in elementary we did a sort of "speak twice test." Gennie and I would both talk at the same time saying different things. I did the same test with Britney as well. I don't really know how effective it is, but I was able to believe it. We would try to say a few words, or just a single word, to whole sentences that were different.

 

To be honest I still kind of parrot Gennie and Britney by accident, or if I get emotional. They're rather forgiving, but it's something I need to stop doing. How much control have you granted Null on developing her own personality? I know Britney didn't talk much at first because she didn't really have an opinion on a lot of things. If this is what's happening working on speech or visuals, maybe it's a sign to work on something else. What are her ambitions?

 

Edit: Oh another note: Gennie and I don't always talk to each other directly. Sometimes like that scream, it's more of a recording of something I've heard before.

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When Britney was fairly young and I would catch myself parroting. I would say "replicate" or "repeat" and she would have to say it again on her own. Bonus points if she says it in her own words.

[Guest]

I've told her she can do what she wants, personality-wise, but I honestly couldn't tell you if she's actually interested.

 

We certainly can't speak at the same time, which is pretty lame, otherwise I'd try your test out.

 

Whatever the case, it's pretty much nothing going on in my head today, from her. Not sure what's up with that. Trying to talk it out, and figure out what's what, but the one time she said anything it was like.. "What are you wanting me to say, and this is stupid, it's just me talking". Which was totally just me parroting.

 

RIP enthusiasm.

[Devinostrata]

Maybe she hasn't found anything that really drivers her yet? Nothing has really caught her eye. What's your instinct on what she likes and dislikes? You might be able to reach out her emotionally if her personality is well developed enough and pull from there. Unless Null's personality is over developed and she's capable of being protective of that. I don't know how much you've worked on her personality, some sort of drive or curiosity?