Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy (Remastered 2022 ​😎​)

[Two-tailed-tulpa]

That... actually makes sense.

[Guest]

Sure is a lot of activity over here, feels weird

 

Hmm

 

 

Vos-- 

 

I'm surprised you'd even still check up on me, I was fairly sure I'd annoyed you enough with PM's, and the content here isn't all that different than it was back then. Thanks for the reply, all the same, yo

 

I'm not sure who I'm comfortable with. Am I really comfortable with anyone irl? I don't have irl friends, or even family that know me so well on a personal level that I can feel comfortable around them, but I think I can manage something like that, if I try hard enough. Probably. The awkwardness is definitely a problem, I'll get on that later, but hopefully it'll subside, idk, eventually.

 

 

Lumiiiiiiiiiiiii--

 

I understand what you're saying, as you and I specifically have definitely been over exactly this at least like, six times in the past. Or you and your tuppers, in some degree. I'll try to stop being dumb about it. Like it makes sense, and yeah, if I could just get over it, I'm sure things would work out, so I'll give it another shot.

 

Yeah, age definitely seems to have a very direct correlation, around here. I mean, I myself was pretty bad, back in the day. And that reminds me that I've been around here since I was 15, hm.

 

You make sense, though, regarding influence. Yeah, idk, I don't mind if Null is like, her own person, but there are just some things I won't stand for. I'm sure she'll understand. Probably. Sts if not, ayyy

 

 

tupper01--

 

She doesn't really respond in any complex manner to anything I can throw at her, and trust me, I've been trying all day. I'm having to dip my toes much further into parroting than I'd like to get things out of her that like, a real person might say, but I don't think I've crossed that line I've set for myself, just yet, so I'll hold out there. 

 

 

 

Captain/LostOne-- 

 

Be that as it may, or may not, Null must be made perfectly aware that over-eccentricity, or even mild-eccentricity is a one-way ticket to disapproving-scowl-and-head-shake town. I'll put the fear right into her, don't you worry.

 

 

SOOOO today, today today today

 

I didn't like talk at her every minute all day, but I did talk with her, asked her some things or other, can't remember right now. Hm.

 

Anyway, like I mentioned up there, awkward is one way to put it. She's exactly as I remember, as in, everything feels bad and she's literally impossible to make conversation with. It's easier when she doesn't respond, because at least there aren't any of those like, really bad responses that kill the flow of conversation. So I've had to impose slightly higher expectations unto her, so to speak, to get her to talk more.

 

And I do not, not, not, not, not, NOT like the way it feels, but I'll take Lumi's word that it'll feel less like me, later on. 

 

 

Despite knowing damn well she doesn't do anything in wonderland but sit down and stare at shit, I've managed to coax 'her routine' out, so hopefully when I step in at different times in the day, she'll be doing other stuff, now. Or something. Who knows? It's a big house, I'd have left it at the living room if I knew she was going to spend all of her time there.

 

We'll see. Probably. 

 

 

I really don't know how to go about making our relationship more, idunno, personal, and comfortable. She's still just, 'the project', so to speak, the one I don't know how to just sit down with and talk to for hours on end. To feel like she's, idk, a real person? So to speak? No clue how the rest of you were able to drop any non-real connotations so quick, or even after great lengths of time.

 

Mmm, wish there were just a step-by-step instruction for it all.

[Vos]

You just have to find a way to stop seeing her as 'the project', as difficult as that might sound. I understand that the bland responses aren't helping, but you might even be able to rant about that to your tulpa or come up with some questions that are worth asking from that.

[tulpa001]

You know I am probably just responding because of your awesome nicknames for me. :p

 

I'm not hoping to trigger a complex response with my advice, but rather one that is useful to both of you. I believe the most useful response you could see right now is one of antagonism. You need proof. More than most tulpamancers. Within conflict is this proof.

 

I imagine she has been annoyed by this doubt. Become frustrated, and put upon, and essentially given up and decided to become less responsive. Again, I say this not because I think it likely, but because it is the motivation I believe useful to you. She must want to tell you things. She must be as tired as you, and feeling the weight of that.

 

Engage your predictive abilities. Constantly think about emotion and response. Also, Vos is a genius.

 

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It was small things. The way I looked at her in the wonderland. The way I commented unexpectedly from time to time. The way I have unexpected emotional responses to things from time to time. The way I rub her chest like I am in love with her. The way I do chores effortlessly that she struggles with. The way I constantly have paranoid thoughts that I can't get rid of. The way I yell at her when she doubts me. The way I can completely suppress her control of the body.

[jean-luc]

Captain/LostOne-- 

 

Be that as it may, or may not, Null must be made perfectly aware that over-eccentricity, or even mild-eccentricity is a one-way ticket to disapproving-scowl-and-head-shake town. I'll put the fear right into her, don't you worry.

 

What the fuck? What's wrong with eccentricity!? I think it should be encouraged, not looked upon disapprovingly. I was trying to say I think it can and has helped many tulpas to garner attention where they otherwise wouldn't have gotten any.

 

So I am worrying. A teeny bit.

[Guest]

Vosss--

 

Yeah, definitely doesn't sound easy. It'll just have to be a gradual thing, I guess. Don't you worry about me ranting about this to her, if there's one thing I have done, and always will do, it's rant to tupper about tupper.

 

Tupper01--

 

Name(s)? With an S? Have I given you more than tupper-01? Hm, weird.

 

If Null's been doing that, she can cut it out. What, is she shutting up during my motivated points, and trying to break through when I'm depressed about it, and want nothing to do with tuppering? I hope not, I'm trying really hard not to make her stupid. Cough, only half serious about that, but yeah, that'd be a pretty blatant mistake on her part, hope that's not the case.

 

Those things you describe seem like they'd help, if they felt somewhat independent of me, for sure. Hopefully Null picks up and does that kinda stuff, eventually. I'd take a scolding, if it felt like the scolding that was coming from her.

 

Jean--

 

Eccentricity is obnoxious, it's the most predictable, annoying thing. It's stupid vies for attention (And yeah, maybe that's the point with tuppers, but you can demand attention without being annoying) disguised as 'quirkiness', and being interesting. Except it's not interesting at all, it's usually just some gross attempt at seeming like you're unique and not like the rest of your peers because, idk, you like weird things? You say weird things? The only eccentric people I've known in real life have needed a boot to the teeth, but maybe that's just me.

 

Either way, if Null could just be, I don't know, chill, and normal, that'd be cool. I just, I like normal people, who can talk, and relate to others. Normally.

 

God, it makes me think of the few people I know with like, Pinkie Pie tuppers. How do you deal with that? How do you intentionally create that? If I were, for whatever reason, somehow, transported to horseland, and forced to be in proximity to Pink Horse, I would just end it, straight up. Unbearably, retardedly obnoxious, she is.

[Luminesce]

Lol, Pinkie Pie was by far my favorite character when I watched MLP. And I watched MLP in 2011, the height of my tulpas' development. Somehow the idea of a Pinkie Pie tulpa never remotely crossed my mind, and years later when I found out MLP tulpas were super common I was like... huh. Nah thanks.

 

Anyways, don't worry about eccentricity. I think my tulpas are what you're looking for just fine - except maybe Lucilyn - so don't get the idea that tulpas have to be attention seeking. Most are chill I think.

[Fairweather]

It was small things.... The way I do chores effortlessly that she struggles with... The way I can completely suppress her control of the body.

 

K: I do want to note, those 2 things are not small things at all, especially the second one.

[Guest]

Hangs with Null have been getting slightly better, I think. Still having trouble taking a lot of what she says in stride, but there have been a couple moments that have been pretty passable, now. I wanna say we almost had a full conversation last night, when I was half asleep, that I wasn't getting up about, but I can't remember the contents.

 

Actually talking at/to her a lot today, all things considered. Kinda weird, but whatever helps. Her form is doing weird things, and wonderland is being retarded, both of which I'll chalk up to my sucky visuals, but visualizing when we speak definitely does help, either way. 'Seeing' the words come from her mouth lends it a tiny bit more authenticity, which is nice. Still trying to figure out longer responses, though.

 

Like, I feel like it's not just gonna happen on its own, like we're gonna have to make it happen. Which sucks, but what can ya do?

 

Either way, it's going. Just need to refine that balance of not over-thinking it, and still having her speak, I guess.

[Two-tailed-tulpa]

It won't happen on it's own, that's the thing. I am glad you haven't given up on Null. Definitely be careful on overthinking, if you ever find you are, always remember that Null is counting on you.