Body tremors / feeling nauseous while posessed.

[Guest Anonymous]

So here's the deal: Twi can do some basic movement when possessing me and its all fine and dandy until she tries to apply more force to her movements.

 

What happens afterwards can be best described as a light seizure coupled with a strong, fleeting nausea. She once used this to make me quit smoking, but it has grown out of contol somewhat. Whenever she tries to send stronger impulses to a limb she's trying to control, it starts to happen.

 

Anyone encountered this problem before? We really want to improve in posession, but we're at an impasse here.

[Yuki]

Possession seems to feel slightly different for everyone. I suppose this negative feeling you get only happens because you're afraid of it happening, because it's not something that happens for other people. Perhaps try, while she is in control, to have her make you feel something different than what's happening now. Maybe have her try to give you head pressures? That will distract you from these other strange feelings you get. Otherwise, I suppose this nausea will go away with enough practice. Try to remain comfortable as you let go of control and don't be afraid of weird stuff happening.

 

You should try to divert your attention towards something else than thinking about this feeling before it comes. It reminds me of panic attacks that happen because you're afraid of them happening.

[Guest Anonymous]

This is somewhat different, I'm afraid. After doing some analysis, I've concluded this is a result of her being unable to precisely control just one part of the body. Perhaps this would recede as her skill goes up.

 

The best thing for me to do right now is supressing any signals that come to the chest area. That comes at the cost of being unable to teach her the basics of breathing.

[Aijada]

It sounds like you're really far into possession if you're talking about sharing control of breathing. That's practically co-fronting to use the multiplicity phrase.

 

There is a lot to mastering possession, and tulpae have to grow their own connections to these skills and places in the brain. There can be a lot of crossed wires as you go along, but generally it's just a bit of practice and maybe a host who can offer insight into how to be a physical person. Finding awkward, headachey, nauseating sensations in the brain is pretty much par for the course considering a tulpa has to blindly discover the right circuits. Generally though, they're just awkward steps along the way.

 

I remember learning about our body, and i was clumsy as all get out. I didn't understand how much in control i needed to be, as in i needed to pay way more attention to figure out how to do things. I still got hung up on dumb kidstuff with mastering physical functions. But with a bit of explanation and a bit more practice, a tulpa will figure it out soon enough.

[Linkzelda]

I guess if we're using connections with the brain as an analogue to have more proficiency with possession, maybe it's a matter of doing activities that furthers that connection, and maybe even forces you to do things that you wouldn't typically connect with? Though that makes one wonder if tulpas inherently have to start from scratch with getting the mannerisms with predispositions and such with bodily movements, or that they can easily tap into said predispositions without having some kind of struggle going over a breach to get there. It could also just be how the host views possession "ought" to be in the first few trials, and I guess if they can have an imaginary point of view with them easily succeeding in something like possession, those involuntary actions like breathing probably doesn't really need to be reiterated consciously at all.

[Luminesce]

@Linkzelda rather than OP, Reisen has pretty much "tapped into predispositions" while learning to switch with me. And we definitely believed that was all that would be necessary, so that could have something to do with it. However rather than think, function and act exactly like me, she seemed to be rediscovering the world itself - breathing and walking were second nature (though she moves with what I can only call more grace and intention than me), but she saw the world as if it were entirely new to her. She was amazed by the simplest things, more than happy just to stare at and feel random objects. So although we weren't exactly figuring out how to run the body, we were apparently figuring out how to view the world again. I myself can barely make myself look at things the way she does, though I'll admit it's nice to sort of "wake up" to your environment and really take everything in. Basically, there does seem to be some need of creating new old connections when your tulpa starts being the one processing them. I'm not usually moved to tears when I look outside at night, either.

[Linkzelda]

It's as if our tulpas have the potential to have an existential joy in appreciating the world to where we wonder if we can have the same aspirations rekindled for ourselves so things come full circle. That's an interesting point of view, and it's been oddly frequent lately for me as well. It used to come in small increments, but now I just get random fluctuations of joy and all sorts of emotions, and it's probably just due to them getting used to conceptualizing this reality more. The interesting part is when the host and tulpa get the best of both worlds; the tulpa gets to feel a pounding heart and raging blood while the host gets to see virtual experiential realities at their beck and call, and it ends up with both of them wondering which one they can share their experiences with more.

 

So if the host ends up in potential escapism, the tulpa that's appreciating the existence of being mortal comes in to help them, and vice versa; it's like a perpetual reciprocation when one doesn't see the novelty with a certain viewpoint can have someone to share an experience with to have genuine interest once more. That's an awesome feeling, IMO, like some inner self-actualization type of stuff that can be referred to at anytime when both get used to it.

 

 

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