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Guest KatTayle

So I discovered tulpas a few years ago, and I decided to make one based on Meowth from Pokemon. It failed, so I kind of gave up on the idea until I remembered tulpas just today because sometimes I felt like I had this connection to this other character of mine. I decided to make this OC into a tulpa, but I have a few general questions first.

 

1- Why are there so many bronies?

 

Ok I'll get to the legit questions later, but seriously, every other person on these forums has a pony tulpa. I'm not against it or anything, it's just odd how there are so many. Anyway...

 

2- Parroting

 

Since my tulpa is an OC of mine, I roleplay him a lot. This means I'm very used to thinking about what he'd do in a certain situation or how he'd react to things. So I parrot, A LOT. How can I train myself not to do this? I'm still in some roleplays with him so I could get to the point where I ask him what he'd do, but I'm not that advanced yet. Any tips?

 

3- Visualizing

 

The thing is, right now I can clearly visualize his voice, tone, actions, etc. The thing I can't visualize is him himself, like what he looks like, even when I close my eyes. It feels like I can tell what he's doing and saying (well, I'm still scared of parroting) but I can't actually visualize it in my mind. Same goes for a mindscape.

 

I've had problems with this a lot, where I can fully grasp an idea in my mind but if I focus and try to actually "see" it I can't. What should I do?

 

(To clarify, I know what he looks like, but I just can't really see him when I focus in my mind)

 

4- Me and my tulpa

 

So once I get visualizing down, I can further interact with my tulpa. I've heard a lot of people talk about them playing games with or being close with their tulpa in the mind, does this mean I need to imagine myself as well being there next to my tulpa? Or is it like when I visualize I'm seeing through my own eyes so I don't really see myself there but it's like I'm there? Sorry this is hard to explain.

 

Thanks!

1- Why are there so many bronies?

Pony show is quite popular. :P

 

2- Parroting

Have you read this thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-sentience-tips-for-those-who-are-getting-parrotnoid

It's very interesting you probably have, don't be afraid of parroting, worry only makes it more difficult, relax and treat your tulpa like you would treat any IRL friend, like it's a living person.

 

3- Visualizing

Have you tried to draw your tulpa? Drawing makes you see the details and makes it easier to visualize, if you have a picture of it you could look at it sometimes, in my opinion this helped me with visualizing, I draw a picture and then use it as a background on my phone or computer.

Meditation for some people is very helpful too.

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I'll answer number four.

 

What you described is "tulpaforcing" or simply "forcing." It's spending time with your tulpa. Simple as that. You can work on progress (such as visualizing them better, learning imposition, etc.) or just hang out with them, talking, games, and such. There's two types: passive and active forcing. Do some research on the topic you'll understand, but the basics are, for active forcing, you can close your eyes and enter your wonderland and be with your tulpa (as for how you perceive yourself there, you can imagine yourself there with your tulpa and that will work fine), and for passive forcing, you simply talk to your tulpa in mindvoice and do whatever you can do with them without having to "enter your wonderland." It doesn't necessarily have to be anything elaborate in either case though it could help to make things interesting.

 

So ya just have fun with your tulpa and really you can do this at any stage in the creation process, sure establishing communication and having good visualization skills helps but you can force at any stage.

1- Why are there so many bronies?

 

Ok I'll get to the legit questions later, but seriously, every other person on these forums has a pony tulpa. I'm not against it or anything, it's just odd how there are so many. Anyway...

 

This whole thing started on /x/ and moved over to /mlp/ when /x/ started to get hostile toward the whole tulpa thing (shitting up their already shitty board?), and then there was a lucid dreaming thread on /mlp/ specifically about dreaming about ponies, I guess, tulpas were brought up, and then there started being tulpa generals on /mlp/.

 

I've never been on /mlp/ in my life so I couldn't tell you if there's still generals or interest, but that's why there's so many bronies round here.

 

EDIT: Here's a chart Albatross made about the whole thing.

We're all gonna make it brah.

 

1. If you look on almost any other site, chances are you'll find just as many bronies.

 

2. Parroting isn't inherently bad, and it can actually help in the early stages when your tulpa has trouble with trying to talk. When you're not trying to parrot, though, just don't worry about it. I'm not going to say you can't parrot unintentionally, which most people seem to believe, but the way I see it, if you don't worry about it, it doesn't matter anyway.

 

3 and 4 are problems I'm still having, so I can't help much with that.

"Don't listen to friends when the friend inside you says 'Do this.'" -Gandhi

 

Tulpa Name: Ellie

Created: 11/13/13

Guest KatTayle

3- Visualizing

Have you tried to draw your tulpa? Drawing makes you see the details and makes it easier to visualize, if you have a picture of it you could look at it sometimes, in my opinion this helped me with visualizing, I draw a picture and then use it as a background on my phone or computer.

Meditation for some people is very helpful too.

 

I'm absolutely terrible at meditation lol. I do draw my tulpa a lot, usually when I'm bored at school or feel like drawing something. I read somewhere that it helps to type out your tulpa's appearance as descriptively as possible, so I might try that.

  • 5 weeks later...

When you draw the picture, I suggest you take the picture and talk to it if it was your tulpa. Imagine that the picture is the tulpa itself and belive your tulpa is really listening. Because its a picture I wouldn't ask questions and just say how your day was. You can even try imagining your tulpa's different expressions on the picture. And once it's in your head enough I'm sure that when you close your eyes you will be able to fully imagine every detail of your tulpa. You can think of the picture as some sort of training wheels i geuss.

 

I am even newer at this then you are so it's just an idea I had.

Well let's see if I can answer your questions. Though I'm not as considered an expert as of yet...

I can at least give you what even I continue to learn.

 

1. Indeed there seems to be a lot of "Bronies" here. Though I do not suggest making a MLP Pony or something. If that's what swings. No reason to tell them that's wrong or out of their way.

 

2. I have been there. Though not many understand at first. Try dragging them out of your head in a sense. That's hard to explain. Just try imagine talking to him as if he was next to you or directly infront of you. Allow him freerange. Meaning more choices. Don't limit him to what he wishes to be or form into. I tried doing this myself and he went in a whole other direction.

 

And yet, by the time he took his name.... he somehow respected a part of my wish in some odd way, but give yourself time to adapt to him and he will more or less become his own being. Not through "roleplay".

 

3. Stare at pictures while you visualize. At first I stared at static. Seeing that technique didn't work for me, but somehow did for others.... I then took familiar pictures or browsed through a bunch of them I could reference. This again allowing him freewill. Let him choose. Don't chain him to anything. If you don't like it, suggest it. Talk to him.

 

If you don't like his chosen form, remember you can always negotiate. Though it should never be hated if he decides to stay the way he is... don't get mad. Take a deep breath: Accept what he's taken in terms of his personality. (This rule can be used for other steps too if you ever feel stumped.)

 

4. I am going to use Metal Gear Solid 3 as an example seeing it's who Evan took form after and wanted to become. Maybe you can take from my own experience to understand. Now: depending how interactive or active you are with your Tulpa. You can play video games with him. Seeing that they can't handle anything physical at first for too long...

 

Think of them like a younger sibling who wants to watch you play. Seeing I do the same for say my sister who never grew up with the Sonic games like I had, she will often get stuck, ask questions and try every now and again. Allow him to do such. Same principles. Though he may not be able to pick up the controller... Allow him to ask questions. Stop your gameplay. Enjoy the storyline.

 

Evan? So far he's pretty quiet when observing me play MGS3, hates when I am on the phone with a friend when I say I am going to play the game with him etc. At first it will be like that because they don't know what to think of the game themselves and want to learn. They are going to ask questions. Get curious. Remind them, however, when you need to get other things done.

 

Moderate and Enjoy. Don't make them upset because they "can't". Never say you "can't". I tried doing that to Evan. He kept bothering me and begging until I told him "Fine we can set such and such time to arrange for a few hours of gameplay."

 

I think that basically about covers your questions....

 

If you have anymore, just let us know!

 

~NovaIce

I wouldn't worry too much about roleplaying your tulpa. I don't really think it's a bad thing, so long as you recognize that your tulpa can and probably will deviate from the "canon" of your roleplay.

 

My tulpa Ex, for example, started out as a roleplay character, and he still enjoys being used in roleplays. The difference, though, is that I don't really feel like I'm controlling him -- at least not the version of him that is sentient. It's more like the roleplay him is always just a temporary, fictional version of him, and while RP Ex's actions aren't "real", I still have the "real" Ex sort of watching over my shoulder the whole time and guiding what it is that I do with him.

 

So not only would I say that it hasn't been harmful, but I might say it's even been helpful, too, as it provides me with one more thing I can do with him, and helps me keep him in my thoughts and develop him more, all while really channeling his personality when I try to think about what he would do in certain situations by roleplaying him.

 

Edit: But, that's just Ex, though. I suggest you talk to your tulpa (if possible) and ask how they feel about it. They might have a different opinion about the whole thing.

Pinky is not a pony. She's an imp.

Sunray is an angel-imp. Ex is humanoid. Kael is a dragon. Magnum is a dog.

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