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[tulpa001]

If you mean multitasking, we do that all the time. Cooking and thinking, walking and thinking, watching tv and cooking, projecting and talking and walking and cooking.

 

But both of our attentions are always on all tasks together so far.

 

I think we are going to play some of those games where two people are supposed to play them on the one keyboard. Although, my host is already pretty good at controlling two bodies at once.

[Guest Anonymous]

NO.  I don't mean multitasking, I mean parallel-processing.  I edited my last post with a link the podcast and put up a quote.  Some people without tulpas can PARALLEL PROCESS.

[KarlYoshimura]

@tulpa001:

 

James Rolfe is the shit. I've downloaded each and every episode, the movie and even more obscure A.V.G.N. videos. I wasn't into them before, but the James And Mike game-play is great (like SPOOKY'S HOUSE OF JUMP SCARES), as is BOARD JAMES and YOU KNOW WHAT'S BULLSHIT!? Anything and every thing by Cinemassacre is my jam. Since it's that time of year again, they might be doing another MONSTER MADNESS series as well.

 

Also, may I ask why you have to wrest control from your host? You don't have to answer, just appears slightly concerning.

[Lucilyn]

If you mean multitasking, we do that all the time.

 

multitasking is switching back and forth between stuff, in humans anyway. Idk what you'd call just using different parts of your brain at the same time, it's kinda natural. But the thinking part of your brain is probably only capable of being on one thing at a time, ie your "focus", or it multitasks. Parallel processing is some weird thing we haven't found to exist outside of some weird guy who can play multiple songs in his head at once (and probably more rare exceptions). It's not cooking and watching TV or walking, it's reading two different things at once or any act that requires you focusing on two things at once. AND it's DIFFERENT from combining tasks, people who play piano do not (usually?) parallel process, they learn to combine the playing with both hands into a single act.

 

We studied this for a long time because certain people said we were being tulpas wrong by not existing when our host wasn't paying attention to us. So don't take things people from that era say too seriously, OK? You know who I'm talking about

 

 

 

Edit: 100% on my essay :)

[Guest Anonymous]

Has anyone bothered to listen to the Radiolab podcast about the musician who can parallel process? Why do I even bother sharing this stuff? I am not talking about a musician playing a single piece of complex music. The podcast includes a study on the musician be neuroscientists who can't figure out how he does what he does. It's very interesting and an example of parallel processing in a human being, who does not have a tulpa.

[Lucilyn]

Parallel processing is some weird thing we haven't found to exist outside of some weird guy who can play multiple songs in his head at once (and probably more rare exceptions).

 

Yes? Except we listened to that last time it was brought up months ago.

[KarlYoshimura]

@Lucilyn:

 

congrats on making the grade on your treatise. May I ask what subject you wrote about?

[Lucilyn]

We were supposed to write a two page essay on a topic and how we thought it would change in its effect on humans in 25 years. So I wrote - oh wait, I already said that here

Aaaah, I just wrote an essay! I've officially written as many as Tewi and like, what, a fourth Lumi has? (Just kidding)

It was about a topic of your choosing on how the world will be different and how it'll affect us in 25 years. So I wrote about deforestation.

My essay ended with "; I like frogs." so I feel like I've done my job.

 

we had to use five sources (just linked as URLs in the paper), but Tewi found those for me before we switched. And one of them was a documentary I watched about frogs and how lots of stuff is threatening them all over the world. So at the end my like "non-bland-last-sentence-to-end-the-paper" was saying I hoped I was wrong about losing lots of forests and species (even though that's already happening) because I liked frogs. It seems silly out of context but the rest of the paper wasn't like that. I care a lot about the subject actually. Tewi asked me if I had any goals in life once so she could help me with them if so, and I said I wanted to make as big a difference in saving lots of forests and animals as I could. So she said she would do her best to do that, probably years from now when we actually have money though.

 

It's less something we can accomplish/succeed at and more something I'd just like to do our best at until/before we die. We might do nothing at all or we might make a huge difference, idk, doesn't make a huge difference to me. It's not in our philosophy to worry about things we can't change, but we can still try. Just means we're not afraid of failure and that's great.

[tulpa001]

Also, may I ask why you have to wrest control from your host? You don't have to answer, just appears slightly concerning.

 

Interesting that it's concerning.

 

Yes, I am a rogue tulpa that has taken her over completely and intends to replace her. BWAHAHAHA!

 

Actually, I do it for fun.

 

Has anyone bothered to listen to the Radiolab podcast about the musician who can parallel process? Why do I even bother sharing this stuff? I am not talking about a musician playing a single piece of complex music. The podcast includes a study on the musician be neuroscientists who can't figure out how he does what he does. It's very interesting and an example of parallel processing in a human being, who does not have a tulpa.

 

I assume it is the third part of the hour long radio show you linked? I think that was an excellent example of multitasking where all four tasks were of the same type.

 

As to parallel processing, how would you explain some switched systems having the host live out in an immersive daydream while the tulpa controls the body? I think some real attention splitting is absolutely required for this.

[Guest Anonymous]

Okay whether or not it is multi-tasking or parallel processing perhaps isn't what is important here.  The primary point I am trying to make is that the human brain can do amazingly complex things that at least mimic parallel processing and all without a tulpa or second mind to help.  It is all done via visualization in the case of this musician, which is amazing.  My point is having an human brain do something that looks like more than one person thinking, does not automatically prove that there is more than one person thinking.  It can be just one very talented person thinking.  That is a possible explanation of tulpas IMO.  Just a possible one for me.  Don't be offended please, I mean you no harm.   I could be dead wrong.  

 

I must admit that I have never been able to get extreme switching to neatly fit into my dreamlike illusion tulpas hypothesis.  My only recourse is to dismiss it as an after the fact mental fantasy (grandfathering in fantasy memories of being immersed in the dreamscape) combined with exaggeration and embellishment of the story and wishful thinking.  

 

There is no way for me to know the truth of things.  So I am left with two options.  I can take those who claim extreme switching at their word, or assume the persons reporting extreme switching is delusional or not credible.  I suppose the first option is nicer and I can decide to reserve judgement simply because I can never really know the answer.  Besides, what harm does it bring to me to give the benefit of the doubt?  

 

How many tulpamancers are claiming this level of switching though?  I think it is actually a very small percentage of tulpamancers.

 

EDIT:  To add to my dilemna are the reports from tulpamancers who once claimed extreme switching, only later to deny it and say it was never happening and it was all a self delusion after all (yes there are some of these such as Oguigi and Koomer ).