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Hi! I haven't been active here for a while, but I'm back!

 

What I wanted to ask you is, has anyone tried to actively force for a whole day?

I mean, like 10 hours non-stop (maybe a break for toilet and a snack).

 

What (what do you think) the consequences would be? Mental exhaustion and headaches for sure, but maybe a boost for you and your tulpa, since you'd spend so much time together in such a session?

Would it be helpful or harmful to try it?

What are your thoughts on this matter?

I've never done it, but I have done meditation retreats where I've done something like 10 hours of meditation a day, every day, for 10 days straight. There was no mental exhaustion or headaches.

 

So yeah, I think it would be good for you, if you have the attention span to pull it off.

"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson

Guest Anonymous

It's not cut out for everyone to be honest. I know that it would bore the hell out of some hosts AND tulpas alike (mine mainly), although you're sure to be exhausted after 10 hours of forcing non-stop. Really depends on your relationship with your tulpa, and how much time you spend together. We spend a fuckton of time together, so we don't see much use in it.

Thunder: That's pretty much our reality!

I assume I'm capable of forcing for extended amounts of time.

My tulpa is still in the early stages of developement (well, we can't even really talk yet), I also have a lot to learn and we don't spend much time together, that's why I thought it could be helpful.

I was thinking of cutting out all the light and sounds from the outside world and dedicating the whole day to what's in my mind, thought it'd be really hard to do in practice now that I think of it.

I'm basically asking because I remembered back when i learned about tulpas few years ago and it was quite a popular statement on the Polish equivalent of this forum that forcing for over 3 hours at a time can be dangerous/ harmful.

Guest Anonymous

IF you think you're capable of doing so and you have the time, then it wouldn't hurt. If anything, that would be something quite positive for Enya. It's harmful if you force for 10 hours each day because it's going to exhaust the hell out of your mind, and it kind of becomes an obsession if you do it too much for too long, I suppose.

I was thinking of cutting out all the light and sounds from the outside world and dedicating the whole day to what's in my mind, thought it'd be really hard to do in practice now that I think of it.

 

It's easiest in a closet, at night, with some towels jammed in the cracks of the door. Make sure it's the sort of closet that can be opened from the inside, and keep a flashlight with you, just in case. Oh, and play some white noise.

 

I'm basically asking because I remembered back when i learned about tulpas few years ago and it was quite a popular statement on the Polish equivalent of this forum that forcing for over 3 hours at a time can be dangerous/ harmful.

 

We had a lot of beliefs a few years ago that are considered ridiculous today. I personally don't think there's any harm in it.

"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson

Yeah, I guess leaving the physical world for the sake of forcing maybe could even lead to some mental ilnesses in the long run.

 

I didn't think of the closet thing, it could be good. My bathroom is preety silenced tho, so I just put some blankets in the bathtub and lay there.

10 hours non-stop, or at least a break for when Mother Nature calls?

. It being a mentally exhausting event?

 

 

Consequences? Well, it depends on how the person assesses themselves:

 

- Did they gradually augment the time of their sessions instead of trying to do it all in one go with no competencies beforehand that allowed them to adjust to something intensive?

 

- Did they forget to at least get something to eat, some nutrition, and maybe just water in general?

 

I haven’t felt any mental consequences other than just being able to have an easier time forcing in general, and other quotidian stuff. I'm not sure if I experienced anything of a mental illness of transitioning to my imagination from physical awareness of this reality. I'm not even sure that should even be considered some kind of illness other than an emotive thing where feeling depressed, or having negative emotions of this life convinces one to engage in escapist tendencies.

 

Though, if people who dream, and even lucid dream in their natural sleep, are they considered to have a mental illness because they shifted their awareness to the dream world? Where do we apply exceptions then, if need be? Especially if dreaming itself is something everyone experiences in their lives; where do we make a dichotomy between that, and just day-to-day imagination (e.g. day-dreaming, meditation)?

 

And experiencing boredom? I'm pretty sure all those long sessions I had with them were anything but that. The fact that there's only 24 hours in a day pisses me off, man; your imagination doesn't really run out of things to do unless you just get tired of reveling in it, I guess.

 

 

I'm trying to go for half a day of forcing in the future, though I would have to save up vacation time for that, unfortunately. But I think it would be fun either way when I find a way to sustain myself, and structure what I would want to experience with them while forcing for consistency.

 

^^^^^

Linkzelda is the expert to listen to when it comes to long forcing times if there ever was one.

 

Long amounts of forcing will have different effect on different people. It's very subjective, like everything else around here.

 

I've personally noticed, after almost two years of this, that long periods of forcing get easier after time. Once again, like everything else around here.

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