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How long did it takes to create a tulpa that have their own opinions?


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I am just a beginner here, i don't even have a tulpa.

But i just don't know where to begin, iv'e tried many other step by step tutorials.

Iv'e already decided some setting for my tulpa(such as personality and a form for her)

And i am able to see her with my eyes closed,but she won't talk or do anything by herself.

Can someone who have a tulpa tell me where should i begin please?

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As far as I know, time varies between each person. It can take weeks, months, or even years. Don't let the timeframe scare you though, just take each day as it comes.

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There's people like Esterina and a few others tuppers, who were always the way they are now as far back as they can remember (that's not even close to the norm, though), and then there's tuppers who aren't "there" yet even after many years.

 

In other words: It's a hiiighly individual thing.

Just like most other things in and around the whole tuppermancy thing. ^^

 

Keep hanging out with yer tupper, keep talking and keep letting it learn.

Everything takes time, however much or however little time that is.

 

Esterina is not here rait nau, but I'm sure she'd be fine with me quoting this from a post of hers in her Ask Esterina! thread:

 

My tip for you is to cast aside all doubt and let your tulpa be as free as possible. Don't try to influence what he or she says or does. And never doubt that what he or she did or said was really them. A tulpa's development as far as autonomy is concerned depends greatly on how much autonomy the host allows and recognizes in the tulpa. At least that's our theory.

Ask your tulpa questions a lot. And ask for his / her opinion. It might be hard early on, but you should try to wrestle answers out of your tulpa anyway. Also, when you're not sure if what you heard really was your tulpa and not just you parroting your tulpa, then double-check by asking him / her to make sure.

 

 

Greets,

AG

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Well it is really a development you can hardly pin down. First thing you should consider: Guides are mostly not meant to be done step by step, you work on your tulpa with techniques that work for you in any way you like. Just make sure that you spend enough time with your tulpa, which is the most important part.

 

Also you may suppress any activity of your tulpa by actively trying not to do anything yourself about movements and responses. The mind of the tulpa is during the early development still very similiar to your own, and will become more distinct over time. This means that you may end up with the feeling that you're the one moving your tulpa, or making up answers for it, even when you're not. It is pretty common to know a splitsecond before your tulpa says anything, what it is going to say. So if you don't make up any movements or responses on purpose, and something still happens, you can assume that it was the action of your tulpa. (Side note: Of course you should keep an eye on your own mind, intrusive thoughts exist, especially when you're in an "expecting" state.) This will change during the development.

 

The biggest tip i can give you is to focus on your tulpa as a whole instead of focussing on any kind of responses (basically its essence). Try to remind yourself about everything about your tulpa you're aware of, and keep your focus on it. You will get stronger and more clear answers this way.

 

The sentience part regarding the own opinion is especially difficult to specify. It probably will take a while before your tulpa is able to talk about complex things, even when it develops fast, it still needs to figure out how it can properly communicate with you. You might get in the way yourself, but this is something time only time can tell.

Tulpa: Alice

Form: Realistic Humanoid/Demonic Creation

She may or may not talk here, depends on her.

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You sure you want your tulpa "expressing an opinion?" Just so you know, once they start expressing opinions, sometimes they don't stop expressing them, whether you like it or not. Well, that is they become just like anyone you know in your life. Let's see, when did I first express an opinion that was truly my own? I have no recollection of it. It probably had something to do with the selection of Melian Show day dream adventures I was going to do. I have my preferences of stories sometimes. :-)


It took me a few years before I started doing those things by the way. I was kinda a slow starter.

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I suppose that when a tulpa starts to have its own opinion relies on how their host narrates and talks to them. Creating sentience != having personal opinions. The psychic apparatus can also aid in those things, to an extent.

 

Ah, I'm too tired. I only came here to help.

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It depends on your method, too. In my system, we use writing to form us. And it usually takes a while... we'll start getting a pseudo-autonomous feel after a few weeks, but it's a gradual curve, and we don't "stick" until almost a year of fairly constant focus.

~ Member of SparrowNR's System ~

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It took a while for my tulpa to start forming distinct opinions counter to mine. Just takes development and finding topics where you are pretty much forced to have an opinion. Then just keep grinding them out until differences start to show.

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