Will my tulpa develop a personality of its own

[n8_darksaber1111]

Forcing for me has been a problem for me. Between my job (I work 2nd shift) and how hectic my weekends can be, I find we don't get a lot of time for forcing. It usually takes me a while to go over his personality traits because I'm bad at explaining things and I'm also adhd so its also hard for me to focus for more than ten or so minutes. Is doing a lot of forcing necessary for developing my tulpa or is doing it when ever I'm able and allowing him freedom to develop his personality the rest of the way alright?

[Linkzelda]

Short answer: Deviation can be your friend, and paralyzing yourself over a personality traits list where it becomes your bible for them might be your worst enemy. It's a tool for getting your feet in the water, but just a supplement towards whatever goal you have in mind. Hectic lifestyles aren't really that rare to see in threads, but don't forget that somewhere along the line, treating them as sentient may imply that you're wanting them to be integrated into that lifestyle. So, it only seems natural that if one method that doesn't allow you to adapt to that may not be something you want as your beck and call.

 

No point in having a presumed sentient entity that could do the whole shebang (e.g. switching, putting things into context), but not know how to assess themselves in the life you were treating them as sentient to be a part of. But hey, who am I to theorize if there's any inherent moral standard, or even a subjective conviction-based behavior we have to abide to?

 

 

Longer answer with some theorizing: (I will always love this hidden feature) [hidden]

Think about it this way:

- In your circumstance, your job, and just your overall lifestyle is preventing you from forcing, and going over the personality traits with your tulpa. Understandable, but, those traits you go over aren’t required by some weird law to validate to you personally that they’re going to be someone to you; someone who can project an identity to you.

 

- To ask if a lot of forcing being necessary for developing your tulpa…getting as much experiential learning for them to put things into context would be ideal, since they would, in theory, have to apply the information through those experiences in some way. But it doesn’t necessarily have to be contingent through forcing alone. Funny thing, forcing tends to become this thing where people feel its methodological process has to be confined in some alone time with little to no distract for that ultimate inward attention. But, you could take advantage of your job shift, for example, as a means to narrate, and communicate with them. It’s sort of hinting, and chalking this up to “it’s-okay-to-talk-to-yourself,-dude.”

 

- To theorize on whether or not you can just allow them freedom to develop their personality the rest of the way. Sure, go for it, if you want; that’s just another concept for deviation to take place on its own. If you want to treat them as sentient, having them create their own context of a personality, and wanting to cultivate that this is possible for them to do would kind of coincide with the yearning for them to develop rather than feeling you have to be there every step of the way in order for them to experience something; whether it’s them experiencing an emotion, or using whatever context that a sentient entity can be implied to exhibit. And, it would coincide with treating them as sentient, since, you know, we don’t necessarily have to tell the next person to us to develop their personality. We just presume they have a life of their own, and experiences to build context in, and thus have an experiential fallback to call their own, and thus project a bit of themselves through their experiences to gain an assurance that there’s an “I” along the lines.

 

- When you try to connect that with tulpas, there is a limit obviously with them externally affecting this reality, obviously, but when putting it in context of treating them as sentient, maybe that analogy could help ease your concerns. Treating them as sentient, IMO, involves whatever cultivation of theories and inferences you feel could apply to sentient beings, and using the conviction-based behavior to hopefully fulfill the goal in mind. But with it probably being conviction-based, it also leads one to worry if their conscious actions and experiences are necessary to facilitate this sentience. Perhaps, this is the dead end we come to, and maybe at that point, treating them as sentient gives off this cringe factor of “I feel like they’re getting there, but if I go into that rabbit hole, I could be deluding myself because if this is sentience being cultivated, then I still have so many questions as to why this phenomenon is occurring in my head.” This is what probably leads to apprehension towards metaphysical implications, and what can be conceivable, or not.

 

I have to worry about closing back to back, and then opening the subsequent day. Sure, it does kind of piss me off, but not to the point where I think, oh shit, my tulpas aren’t going to be developed anymore. I just create the assurance that I can get back on that progressive learning curve of cultivating sentience some other time. Some people add on other assurances that their tulpas are understanding of the circumstances, which is really just a way of “oh, thank goodness I can operate like a human being now that I know that they’re okay with it.”

 

Also, this might be something people undermine a lot, but this experience doesn’t have to be one where you’re paralyzed on what to do just because a manager, or whatever leader decided to schedule you on. Stuff happens, and may get in your way of developing your tulpa, but that doesn’t mean your yearning to do so just goes away. Your concern, and worrying is a clear testament that you want to make something out of it in spite of the situation. What I learned is to never take for granted of that yearning, and appreciating that you cared anyway. Some people take great pains to try and understand their tulpa, but they end up paralyzing their lives just so they don’t get the idea that they’re abandoning them. If you’re going to create someone to live your life with, and you’re always stuck on what to do, then maybe see it as a chance of them learning how to cultivate an identity of themselves in these circumstances, and who knows…maybe that’s when our mind does these things that we’re still demystified as to how the progress even happens.

 

But, I wouldn’t know any better, honestly.

 

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[Vos]

Considering that personality is a completely optional step, yes, it should just develop on its own if you choose not to work on it. Even with focus issues and being bad at explaining things, you could still get through it if you tried. It doesn't take that long to go over a trait, and it's not like you need to trudge through as many as possible in just one session. Dane's trait template helps a lot when it comes to defining whatever traits you'd use, so give it a look-see at some point if you have the chance. Doing a lot of forcing isn't necessary, and some people have even made tulpas through only narration, but you should still try to give as much attention as possible, even with your hectic schedule.

[n8_darksaber1111]

Thanks. I'll check out the link. I do a lot of narration already but wanted to make sure that leaving out something important. Lol

[Drakaina]

Your tulpa can develop a personality on it's own, but this doesn't reduce the need to force in any way. In fact I'd guess it might take more forcing time since you wouldn't have that baseline to build off from.

Personality traits and form, those are all nice to have, but really it's the forcing that makes the tulpa. Giving them attention and thinking about them is paramount, without it, unless you have legitimate schizophrenia and your mind constructs entities on it's own, a thought form won't become anything more and an idea.

 

What you need to do is find a reminder to force. I have attention issues too so I know it's not easy, but its what tulpa need. You can tie something to your finger or wrist to remind you, or set a recurring alarm on your phone, or if you have art of your future tulpa put it as a lock screen. Anything to remind you if them during the day.