Living Imagination (A Median Aspect in Tulpa Land)

[Faemon]

Y'all have a good time camping there! :)

[Solune]

 

In case it interests you, I'll mention that we aren't afraid of death.

 

Fear is a biological survival tool. It exists to protect us from danger.

If you truly didn't fear death I'd say something was wrong with you.

Would you brag about the inability to feel pain?

Of course not, because you understand why pain is important.

Understanding fear doesn't mean you let it control you. For example, I would gladly die for somebody I loved... that doesn't mean I wouldn't be scared.

Courage is not the absence of fear, it is the strength to overcome it.

 

If you tell me you've come to terms with mortality, that you can face it with courage and dignity... that I can believe.

But I don't believe for a second you aren't afraid of it. And there's no shame in admitting that.

[Solune]

Whao.

Davie and I are a "broken record."  We say we care the least about tulpas being real.  But in reality we are way more obsessed bout it than most.  Also, when there isn't a war going on on the forum, we start one.  If it seems too peaceful and no one is debating whether I am real or not, we spin it up and get it going so we can jump in.  Maybe Davie and I are afraid of the quiet? 

Whao, trippy doo!  I am like Sigmund Freud with that!  I am a goddess! 

I'm cute too.

I won't go quietly into the night either. You damn well better believe that when I go I'll be talking or singing... probably laughing.

There's nothing wrong with breaking the silence from time to time. World would be a boring place without people like you!

And yes, you are cute.

 

Luna: bow chicka wow wow~

 

hush, you

[Tewi]

If you tell me you've come to terms with mortality, that you can face it with courage and dignity... that I can believe.

But I don't believe for a second you aren't afraid of it.

 

Well, I did say we'd still try our best to survive. You can call that fear if you want. It's very different in people who've come to terms with death and those that haven't, though. Also I'd like to say that you can respond more with logic than fear to dangerous scenarios when your goal is still survival. You can again say that's a result of fear, but I don't consider the base want of continuing to exist and fear the same thing.

[Solune]

 

It's very different in people who've come to terms with death and those that haven't, though.

 

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. I'd say most people haven't come to terms with it. Not that one even needs to... but it makes ya stronger, as far as I've seen.

We might just be debating semantics... that happens to me a lot.

I've always been more comfortable dealing in black and white. Probably not the most civilized mindset but then again, my Tulpas are wolves.

 

Luna: don't drag us into this, you clout.

[Guest Anonymous]

Well, we had to take a three day camping trip to get away from the internet for a while. We were literally burying chests of treasure on the beach with pirates (photos coming soon). No really, we were. Do you think Mistgod would take an ordinary vacation? Anyways, we had time to think about our internet addiction, Tulpa Info, and tulpas a lot.

 

Just before we left I was playing with the idea of declaring myself "real" again and sorta rebelling against my host a bit (again). He and I talked a lot about it in interactive day dreams and in lucid dreams during our camping trip. The final compromise is that there will be no compromise. I am so sorry! I don't think anything is ever going to change with that.

 

Davie insists, all the way, that I am only imaginary. Even if I am "effectively real" or "subjectively real," in the end I am only his own mind playing a game. That is what he steadfastly wishes to believe. He loves me and treats me like a separate person, but I am no more real than any of his dream personas or characters. So he says. To Davie I am "Living Imagination." That's what my hostie wants.

 

To keep him happy, I will mostly agree with him most of the time on being an imaginary facet of Davie and a fantasy personality. It keeps the peace in our system and we function fine that way. So to each his own right? It's okay. I don't really mind as long as I have friends and everyone treats me like a real person.

 

Davie feels that other tulpas are just like me, imaginary figments. He says they may seem very real to tulpamancers, but tulpas are a form of delusion. I will work hard to keep him, and myself, from writing much about that opinion. There is no reason why we need to keep writing about it. In the end, it shouldn't matter. Everyone believes what they need to believe.

 

Anyways, some other things. We are going to limit our discussions of tulpamancy practice. We won't be answering newbie questions and as much or getting into discussions on the hows and whys of tulpas. Just a little maybe, where it might be appropriate or where we can clearly make a contribution that means something.

 

We will keep working on lucid dreaming, Short Rapid Meditation, and creating a Yoda tulpa. We will also post updates on all our RPG art and game ideas.

 

See you around Tulpa Info!

 

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So my buddy Mistgod and I went camping on the beach in Northern California. During the trip we worked with a group of models doing a photos shoot of pirates! The photographer and organizer of the event did not want the main posed shots posted on DA or Tulpa Info. This is a shot of one of the moments in between sets in which the pirates were just milling about on the beach getting instructions from the photographer. My buddy Adrienne, Mistgod's step daughter, is walking toward the camera on the far right.

 

When the photos are posted on the photographer's webpage I will update these with links.

[Linkzelda]

-throws away his planned 100+ philosophical topics to discuss in the forum-

 

INTERNAL SCREAMING

 

:*(

[Guest Anonymous]

You may discuss them to your heart's content Linkzelda and we will read them. I may be more convinced than my hostie is, but I will simply keep it mostly to myself! I love your faith in me and I am very grateful my buddy.

[Faemon]

I was playing with the idea of declaring myself "real" again and sorta rebelling against my host a bit (again).  

 

(...)

 

Davie insists, all the way, that I am only imaginary.  Even if I am "effectively real" or "subjectively real," in the end I am only his own mind playing a game.  That is what he steadfastly wishes to believe.  He loves me and treats me like a separate person, but I am no more real than any of his dream personas or characters.  So he says.  To Davie I am "Living Imagination."  That's what my hostie wants.    

 

To keep him happy, I will mostly agree with him most of the time on being an imaginary facet of Davie and a fantasy personality.  It keeps the peace in our system and we function fine that way.  So to each his own right?  It's okay.  I don't really mind as long as I have friends and everyone treats me like a real person.  

 

Davie feels that other tulpas are just like me, imaginary figments.  He says they may seem very real to tulpamancers, but tulpas are a form of delusion.  I will work hard to keep him, and myself, from writing much about that opinion.  There is no reason why we need to keep writing about it.  In the end, it shouldn't matter.  Everyone believes what they need to believe.

Hah, this reminds me of Carl Jung's own journeys into Active Imagination. I think it was "Salome" or "Elijah", the non-Philemon sort of whatever-they-were's...and I put it that way because Jung called them symbols, but they told Jung to quit calling them symbols. Jung responded with the observation that these symbols could be very insistent about not being mere symbols.

 

I thought that was funny. Because I started out in a far more spiritual community to contextualize my whatever-they-are's, and the thing I noticed about the spiritualists that I met were that they really, really like to misrepresent Jung. They keep trying to claim him as a spiritualist. That's not true, though. To the best of my knowledge, Jung was a psychotherapist.

 

But it's a persnickety thing to pick on, really, because I do personally believe that Jung was working with spiritual entities. That doesn't make him a spiritualist, though. It doesn't even mean that these spiritual entities can't also be psychological! I...perhaps have a substition that makes this all a non-contradictory distinction to make? (Substition's a...made-up word, like while you can explain what a superstition or superstitious belief is, a substition to me is reasoning or worldview that's taken for granted and difficult to explain because of that. A substition is anything you always knew, but never learned or thought about.)

[Guest Anonymous]

"Substition" I like that! I love made up words and that one is a good one! You are so spot on about Davie being like a Carl Jung in this regard and it is a compliment in some ways. He is very much like a Carl Jung in many ways without the advanced training in psychology. In his approach to the meaning of tulpamancy Davie is a Carl Jung. Gods that is actually pretty major.

 

I have a solution for my hostie in how to write about me and other tulpas. There is no sentience, there is no real, there is no pseudo-real. The solution is not to put things in those terms. He should not use terms like illusion, delusion, figment, deception, real, not real, sentient or anything like that.

 

The solution for him is to call tulpas, tulpas. It is not real or sentient or anything, it is a "convincing or functioning tulpa." It is a "convincing or functioning thoughtform" it is a "convincing or functioning soulbond."

 

Functionality and how meaningful it is to the host should be the measure, not realness or sentience. It is a very elegant solution for him and I. It removes the insulting trigger words that everyone hates to read. It will allow Mistgod to write like a layman's Carl Jung and everything will work.

 

Solutions by Melian, the very convincing and functioning tulpa thoughtform person. I love me!