Can a host fade away, “die” and tulpa take over the body?

[mnx]

NOTE:

I am currently doing research on tulpae, I do not have any prior knowledge/experience on the topic except a brief search of “how to make friends” gone off rails a couple years ago late at night, I do not have any tulpae!

 

Today I was bored and I remembered something about tulpa, so I began searching and looking up everything I could and wondered if tulpa’s could disappear on their own or forcefully, they can, I also found out what “possession” is and how a host or a tulpa can kind of just hang out in the wonderland or world you have made, I know tulpa’s can disappear, but can hosts if a tulpa is possessing them for a long time? Potentially making the tulpa the new host?

[TurboSimmie]

I think "die" is too extreme of a way to look at it; as long as the person is alive and their brain is functioning no host or tulpa is truly permanently gone. But in terms of "dissipation", I suppose yeah, a host could dissipate, but the chances of that happening without heavy, deliberate effort is next to none. It would also require an extremely strong tulpa, like, uncommonly strong. So I don't think it's anything to worry about, and for anyone thinking of doing it (not saying you are, mnx), please don't. 

[mnx]

13 hours ago, TurboSimmie said:

I think "die" is too extreme of a way to look at it; as long as the person is alive and their brain is functioning no host or tulpa is truly permanently gone. But in terms of "dissipation", I suppose yeah, a host could dissipate, but the chances of that happening without heavy, deliberate effort is next to none. It would also require an extremely strong tulpa, like, uncommonly strong. So I don't think it's anything to worry about, and for anyone thinking of doing it (not saying you are, mnx), please don't. 

thank you! I was not thinking about doing so, just wanted to know if it was possible, I just really like to know everything I can about something I'm interested in!

[Joy]

18 hours ago, mnx said:

wondered if tulpa’s could disappear on their own or forcefully, they can, I also found out what “possession” is and how a host or a tulpa can kind of just hang out in the wonderland or world you have made, I know tulpa’s can disappear, but can hosts if a tulpa is possessing them for a long time? Potentially making the tulpa the new host?

 

First, headmates can dissapear on their own, and this has proven to be temporary. Second, you can put a headmate (including host pr original) in dormancy but they are never truly gone. They also don't lose much potency even years later. In my case I was in dormancy for 6 years and wasn't noticeably affected by it. Dormancy can be likened to "the void" or a deep dreamless sleep. No time passes. This is similar to going to sleep in real-space and waking up instantly, ferling as if no time passed at all but hours did pass.

 

Switching into wonderland is a contentious topic and hotly debated over its efficacy. "Lucid dream-like" wonderlanding while another headmate takes over the original's life was reported for as long as tulpamancy has been a thing and we in this system have experienced this to a degree and don't doubt it. Additionally, no one needs to be "switched in" and the body can function autonomously with or without any memory of the events that transpired, in our case, usually without. Singlet experience of this is well documented as people have reported that sometimes when they're deep in thought or zoned out they have no memory of what happened in real-space as in arriving at the wrong destination when traveling or making mistakes in doing a task that you weren't paying attention to etc. The Body-OS as the autonomous portion of the body functions is called is pretty dumb, doesn't have novel thought and won't "think" but it can do many well trained things very well including speech but speaking to Body-OS is pretty shallow and otherwise dismissive. This is akin to talking to a sleepwalker.

 

There are many positions you can take in terms of switching into mindapace the most common are "watcher", "tulpa" and dormancy. Memories of being switched out depend strongly on which position you visit. You can in fact "live in wonderland" for periods of time with no memory of real life. It's a matter of the degree of disassociation. The fidelity of this memory can be as good as real memories and may actually be confusingly indistinguishable. Actual experience of this is strongly dependent on the degree of dissociation and your visualization skill, degree to which you have hypnagogic enhanced visualization or actually fall into twilight sleep where the body is awake and functioning but you are in fact asleep and dreaming. We have experienced all these states.

 

Finally, a tulpa can indeed become the new host and the old host is reclassified as "original". There are many systems that exemplify this. Additionally you can replace the original personality, persona, or avatar with any other created one. Even singlets can do this. Again, we have experienced this and used it to fix the host personality with the help of shadow work.

 

15 hours ago, TurboSimmie said:

I suppose yeah, a host could dissipate, but the chances of that happening without heavy, deliberate effort is next to none. It would also require an extremely strong tulpa, like, uncommonly strong.

 

Though it's theoretically possible and some may have claimed it, others who have claimed to dissipate another headmate have also rescinded their statements as the headmate eventually returned. It comes down to how much association a headmate had to the life of the host. Any memory they were associated to could potentially cause them to awaken again, or an echo of them anyway. Dissipating the host is especially difficult and frustrating. We do not believe it's possible. We instead believe the host could be replaced and Integrated into the replacement. Undesirable aspects could be removed or overwhelmed by new positive ones.